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wonder what things that have been done but still classified… like the JFK assassination that’s for some reason still classified 🤔
I remember reading about one not that long ago on urban warfare exercises IN Los Angeles. There was also other stuff with declassified documents, but I forgot what they were. Interesting how there are a bunch of declassified documents on the gov doing horrible things that no one seems to care about
So, Henry, in answer to your question: no, I haven't really read anything substantial on that subject as far as I can remember 🤔 But I'm sure that it would be an interesting subject to look into...
Oh 😅...do you, uh, want us to rehash the convo, so that you could chip in? 😉
I don’t always look at all my groups and sometimes leave conversations out. Like the one about dogs 😒 😢
😂Btw, Micah, how come you only say stuff on this group, and not any of the others like Friendly Chats? 😉
My dad sends this stuff to us 😏Besides, it shouldn't matter WHERE I got it. If she said that, then that's all that matters, correct? 😂
where r u getting this stuff Vera? 🤦♂️
Just noticed, I wrote seen instead of scene 🙄🤦♀️ Anyway! Micah, literally, there doesn't exactly have to be too much context for that. Do you think they were having a mask less party or something? 😂 And how can it NOT be true? Those were all people from the WH, and you can just photoshop their faces to make it look like they don't have masks on. And it does prove something. If these folks truly believed their own narrative and were as fearful as everyone else into whom they're instilling fear, then I would think they would follow their own guide instead of being hypocritical...Also, did you see Biden's WH press secretary, with a straight face, calling this thing a "global PLANdemic"? Take a look: https://tinyurl.com/7udtchph
Context plz 😂? Also it doesn’t prove anything if true 😂
Really, really, this (8 seconds long vid) is one you've all GOT to see! (You might want to mute it) https://tinyurl.com/csx84ry8 No, seriously. At the beginning, it shows a picture of the whole team, from the White House with their masks on. Then in another seen, a little after the picture was taken, they're all walking around WITH NOT ONE MASK ON, mind you! They're talking to each other AND NOT SOCIAL DISTANCING. Um, excuse me! One of these is not like the other 🤨🤔
...actually, there's a third thing that it could be, that you forgot to mention 😉--that it's 100% true. And there's a ton more evil I COULD call out, but I'm not gonna. We're simply showing you these different things to show you where this world has ended up and where it's headed, since you somehow seem to think that everything about the plandemic is honky-dory 😂 But, yeah, we can also talk about the good stuff that's happening. 😊 (hint, hint: I had brought up the good news that Jesus is returning very soon 😉)
Not 100% of the story, or wrong. That is the two things it could be. Also if we call out EVERYTHING that is evil we will be chatting forever, could we maybe focus on the light. You and Roger like to point out all the bad things a lot.
😭 This is so evil!! NEW YORK HOSPITALS REFUSE TO RELEASE NEWBORNS TO UNVACCINATED PARENTS https://tinyurl.com/et8jxy4
Well, like Micah has stated before, Vera and I are practically like the same person 😆 Cuz she agrees with me about that, ofc 😉
Ik you think that Vera. But not like you KNOW that.
Well I believe things right now are going to get a LOT worse very quickly, very soon. So, I still think that Jesus is coming anytime. We just have to be ready.
Yes. And Hitler/Stalin. But we do not know when he will come. I am reading now about the church in the east and it says that after they were founded they had a couple good years and everything was going well then there was intense persecution leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. It was much worse then then it is now. I believe at least.
We never know, Jesus told us in His word that he will come at an unexpected time, so it could be soon or it couldn’t, keep in mind that the Holocaust was absolutely terrible and it sure seemed like a great time for Jesus to come, wars going on and lots of chaos and confusion
I think he could even return this year 🤷♂️
Well, yah, but before 2037? who knows 🤷♂️
Yeah, I didn't say I knew the date. And if it says in the Bible that Jesus is coming back soon, and that was all the way back then, then at this point, Jesus is CERTAINLY returning EXTREMELY soon😉
Except that it was much worse during several times in history and nobody knows the date. Even the disciples back in 100 AD believed he was coming back soon 🤷♂️
Well, imo, we might already be in the millennium by 2037, because Jesus is coming back soon! 😄
Henry, I thought you'd find this short video funny 🤣https://tinyurl.com/vkyrzm74
Henry, congratulations on your baptism! 🤩 And I am also glad to hear about your family starting to head in the direction of salvation. 😊 I also agree with Roger's comments 😉🙏
@Henry, I'm so happy that your family is starting to show signs of interest in the gospel! 😄 And I understand all the issues that you face and the barriers you experience. However, I still don't see how your taking the shot will make them more prone to get saved...I believe that if God is already working in their hearts, He is more than capable of bringing them fully to salvation, regardless of your vaccination status. As you said, your testimony and transformation are witnesses to them, and I think that showing them that you trust in God to protect you, instead of the vaccine, can be a witness as well 😊 Ultimately, this decision is between you and the Lord, but I would strongly encourage you not to take the vaccine. Wait on the Lord, and He will work everything out for your good. 😉 And I'm also praying that your family will very soon give their lives to Jesus. 😀
@Micah...I'm Roger, not Vera 😉😂 And I didn't say it was the mark of the beast. I said that the mark of the beast is right on the heels of the vax. You can take it or leave it, but time will reveal the truth.
Yeah, I agree with @Sethers. And my brother-in-law is high up in the navy and he for one, couldn't do a religious exemption and if he did he would be kicked out of the military, and two he had a certain decline for when he had to get the vax and if he didn't get it he would be kicked out too. So saying there will and is a way out is no guarantee not just for the military but for everyone...
I don’t think it is the mark of the beast but I have never seen or heard of a vaccine that is trying to become mandatory
I’m not going to say anything to you Vera except that you saying it is close to th mark of the beast is 100% wrong and without backing. It is either the mark, or not.
The witness right now is the transformation in my life. My sister, who like me 1-2 years ago knows nothing about Christianity or have any interest, did almost cry at my testimony before the baptism 😊 I don’t remember how much I’ve shared before, but I was all sorts of troubled including addiction to hard drugs. The media here has too effectively affected them, so I can’t change their minds on it. I also won’t be sharing too much, but I’ll say that my family has been very dysfunctional at times because of generational trauma
😅 Yes I’ve been praying on it a long time, and now that I think about it, it’s amazing that they even came to my baptism without me asking. I can’t be 100% sure about the truth of the vax, but I’m 100% of the truth in Jesus. I don’t now how to explain this clearly, but we grew up very very secular. 2 years ago it would be unusual for me to hear God’s name unless it was taking His name in vain, so that how foreign the idea of God and Jesus is to my family, and before to be. Not that long ago it seemed very difficult to share the gospel, but I’ve been seeming God’s work and then being more receptive. Ofc I haven’t made an appointment or anything plans for the shots, so there’s still time
Sorry, didn't realize it was that long 😅
So, I'm assuming that they are worried that you will catch the virus, and not that you will spread it. If it's the former, have you tried telling them that you are not afraid of the virus because you are trusting in God to protect you from it? I think that would be a good witness to them, bc it would show them that when you are saved, you don't have to live in fear bc God has promised to take care of you. Also, as far as school and work go...I know it can be very difficult, and it is certainly easier said than done, but sometimes, we just have to do what we know is the right thing to do (to not take the vax) and just trust God to take care of the rest. He will never fail to take care of us if we are trying to do what is pleasing to him, even if it means sacrificing things that we need (eg. work, school). He will always make a way, and come thru for us. We must live by faith, not by sight. It is the same kind of trust we must show with regard to the mark of the beast, which is closely on the heels of this vax. We must resist the antichrist's agenda here, and not give into the pressure. It won't be easy, but we have to make a choice to do the right thing. Plz prayerfully consider all this 😊 I really feel that the vax should be avoided at all costs. Also, is this something that you are feeling the Lord is telling you to do? Or is it just bc of pressure from what you've mentioned?
To make it short, they came to my baptism and think are concerned with so many people gathered around. They truly worry that I haven’t gotten it since literally everyone has, and there’s no way of convincing them otherwise. And I won’t be able to go to school, work, etc
But, Henry, how do you think that not getting the vaccine would impede them coming to Christ?
That's great that you got baptized! 😃
and not getting it would unfortunately impede that
but looks like I’m going to have to take the vaccines because I want my family to come to Christ too
I somewhat see your point... after all, baptism is the outward expression of an inward commitment. So, yeah, you're right 😅
It kind of is the same decision.
They go hand in hand so....
Well, actually, his decision to accept Jesus was right up there near the top, as well 😉
Micah, as happens every so often, I agree with you 😂
That’s great!!! 100 times better then any decision you have every made or ever will make! 👍
That's wonderful, Henry! I'm so happy for you! 😃
On a positive note I’m finally getting baptized this week 😄
Thanks. Nope, it’ll be very hard to get one. And then there’s my non believing family who look down if I somehow did get one
Religious exemption maybe?
Well, I'm praying that you won't have to get it 🙏
Well where I am, looks like there’s about no chance that I can avoid the shots…
Yeah, I definitely understand.
Micah, the dream wasn’t about politics but hope for California. Sure, what i said was kinda political. I didn’t see your previous message, but another reason is that everything is very expensive. I’m grateful i can live in my parents house because if I couldn’t, i would probably be a homeless like the thousands here because of how ridiculously expensive housing is
That is kinda political....
Yeah, California is experiencing the biggest net migration loss in its history. Small businesses are leaving (or were killed by gov from lockdowns, about 1/3 total) and even Elon Musk moved to Texas
Besides, Micah, you can't say that it has to do with politics, bc you probably didn't even read it 🤦♂️ And if you were like us (😂) (maybe even if you weren't!) and you were living in CA, you'd probably see why Henry wants to leave the state.
And, besides, even if you think that that dream was politics (which it wasn't), what do you call the stuff that the Old Testament prophets were dealing with?
🤔 Seriously? And, Micah, Henry may not want to tell you all the reasons. That really is his business... 😉
No, it does have to do with politics. Henry, why were you considering leaving California? Honestly
True, but he shouldn't assume it's politics 😂
I think Micah or Noah said before that they can’t open those types of links
Besides, God can speak to ppl in dreams. It says it in the Bible.
Micah, yeah, it wasn't at all about politics. It's a message God gave a woman and an encouraging word for those living in Cal to be salt and light
? The article isn’t about politics
“A dream” - me thinking 🤦♂️
Thanks. Its cool that you brought that up because just lately I’ve been reconsidering fleeing California in the future 😊 I was thinking before of moving to Texas 😅
It's a dream that someone had about California
@Henry, I thought you might find this short article interesting and encouraging 😊: https://tinyurl.com/4bnff6my
Micah, I did not watch the whole movie. There were lots of parts I wasn't allowed to watch. I only saw a few of the main parts 😉
I heard it’s got some stuff in it tho, same as 1984
He also wrote Animal Farm, which is about the communist takeover of a farm by pigs who then oppress all the other farm animals 😅
I think the book is better. Orwell really nailed it
Haha 🙄😂 I don't know if I've ever heard of that movie, but I have heard of (and watched SOME of) "1984".
It’s called getting lucky 😂 just like back to the future got ALOT of things correct in their movie about the future. Btw, I haven’t watched it because of the profanity. 👍
I have no idea who the writer was. And no, I didn't read the comic strip...I don't read comics. But whoever wrote it, how would they know that would be happening in 2021??
Um.... it’s a comic strip. Bet you didn’t actually read it, you just saw it cuz someone used it as proof or sum. Is the writer a conservative?
Hey, y'all might be interested to know that back in Feb of 1997, a comic strip was published that actually predicted that children would be doing school from home IN 2021!. Notice the occult all-seeing eye of the New World Order to the top right and the sign that says, "Video monitor must remain uncovered at all times." https://tinyurl.com/amcepaay Now tell me someone didn't have some inside information.
Anyway, on a different note (no pun intended xP), this is a really great song that I thought some of you might enjoy 😁 (not Micah, ofc 😂) I especially like the lyrics bc they are so applicable to the times we live in: https://youtu.be/9YNmeBEGeCM
Because that's the way God has decided to do things--to have the Holy City/heaven come down out of the sky to the new earth. Ofc, heaven is also the place where the souls of the righteous go after death; but ofc you don't believe that, even tho the Bible plainly says it 😉
The kingdom is being prepared by Jesus in heaven.... so....? He also said he would bring the kingdom of God down to us, why is that necessary if we are going there?
Yeah, I know 😅 Who would've guessed that I'd have to sit here and PROVE to someone--a Christian!--that we're going to heaven!?🙄😂
Micah, guess what? 😏 I've got'churs some MORE proof that we're goin' to heaven: "Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house IN HEAVEN, not built by human hands." (2 Cor. 5:1) Can't deny the obvious.
...that random dude wouldn't happen to be you, would it? (Just kidding 😝)
🙄😂 Haha, very funny xP...um, yeah, really random, WEIRD dude 😆
took a pic of a random dude and outlines him and stuff.
It’s not. i love when you say what you “know” I am going to say ur always wrong 😂
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing 😅 And why does he have sharp fingers that look like claws?...🤔 But, I already know you're gonna say that it's an album cover of some "Christian rapper"🙄😂
@Micah, why does ur guy or pp have red eyes? not criticizing just wanted to know....
@Micah, ofc God will live with us. I don't know all the EXACT details of how everything will be, but it seems like the Holy City (notice it's called a CITY) will come down onto the new earth, and will be there. Or, it will be suspended above the new earth in the sky. Either way, we will probably move about from the Holy City to the new earth, and vise versa. But I believe that the Holy City/New Jerusalem that will come down, is the same heaven that exists today, and that is occupied by God, the angels, and the saints.
If there are two places who will live where Roger?
So there will be two places? So God will not live with us?
No, of course we will use the new earth and new heavens (sky/ firmament), but there will also be the Holy City/New Jerusalem, which I believe is the same heaven that exists today. Second, these verses PROVE that there is immediate life after death. "We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Cor. 5:8) "I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;" (Phil 1:23) "He died for us so that, whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him." (1 Thes. 5:10) All of these talk about going to be with Jesus when we die, and Jesus is in heaven.
There is no need for a new heaven if there is going to be a new earth. Also, what does the other words for heaven mean? Where are we going to live? Are we going to leave the new heaven and new earth empty?
Well, he also says "the kingdom of HEAVEN". Second, when John saw a new heaven, the Greek word for heaven can mean "sky", which is most likely what he meant by "heaven"--the old universe with all the planets and stars. That will all be thrown away. However, the heaven where God lives is not going to pass away. He created heaven to exist for eternity. There would be no need to do away with that, bc heaven is already perfect. Besides, Phil. 3:20 says that our citizenship is in HEAVEN. Meaning, we're going to live there.
Also Jesus referee to it as “the kingdom of God” not heaven.
I go there to prepare “a place” for you. Alos let’s not forget... I saw a new heaven and a new earth because the first heaven and earth were cast away. So this is where heaven and earth combine and we live with God forever.
Micah, OF COURSE WE'RE GOIN' TO HEAVEN, DUDE! 😂😂 "In my Father's house" (HEAVEN) "are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." (IN HEAVEN--a place for US) "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." (in HEAVEN). That's about as plain as the nose on your face. 😂 And if THAT wasn't proof enough, there's Phi. 3:20: "But our citizenship is IN HEAVEN. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ," 🤔
Don't decide to leave 😅 We'll just continue to "deal with u" 😉
U will have to deal with me until I decide to leave.... clue:Neverishhh
But we aren’t going to heaven Roger 😂 we r going to the kingdom. So.... no thanks.
But the whole country! And the whole world!? Even people who are not members of the UN! To big of a hoax to be considered a hoax. People are dying, and it is a lot. Henry less then one percent doesn’t mean anything. That means like less then 1 out of 100 people die to covid. Meaning if you know a hundred people Chances are they will die. And where do you get your info? The same place that you say is wrong? look up the actual percentage tell me, and then tell me why you think it is wrong plz. Thanks and God bless.
Yeah, I agree, and I'm about done talking about this, too. @Micah, save your comments and questions for when we get to heaven 😂
Anyways, I done talking about vaccines and covid
What makes it worse it that you’ll get banned on social media and censored if you just have legitimate questions of the safety? How does that help skeptics when you shut them down? They wouldn’t need to suppress speech if it were true and mandate people to take it when it’s supposed to me their lives that are at risk and not the vaccinated
when the gov lies and over and over, like the boy who cried wolf, which time will we believe they are telling the truth. They lied about so much, and now they the vaccines are safe and we should trust them?
when he’s been destroying the state and pretending to follow science when he doesn’t even show the data to support his tyranny and has his kids go to private schools when he shut down all the schools and when he had a mask less party with his lobbyists when he mandated everyone to wear masks
Like Gov Newsom, he says COVID cases are going to rise if he gets recalled 🤦♂️
Exactly, and if 1 out of 3 died, then they would be justified in some of the things they do, but no, it’s less than 1% death rate
Micah, like Vera said, it's one word: FEAR. Fear is a huge tool that the evil powers-that-be use to control the masses, bc they are power hungry and want to rule the world, the same way Hitler and other ppl like him did. Even satan controls ppl using fear! It's no new thing. All of this is ultimately apart of the end time antichrist agenda. It's helping to usher in the Great Reset and the mark of the beast. At the very beginning of all this, my family and I basically believed all they were saying. But I'm so thankful to God that we found out the truth about this, bc as time went on, things became so blatantly suspicious and fraudulent, that now a huge number of ppl in this country can see right thru all this. And like I said, hopefully one day, you'll believe the truth, too 😊
Another reason is that it's a great way to make money--masks, PCR tests, vaccines, and whatever else they're making money--big bucks--on
Bc, Micah, one reason that it's a scare tactic. They want ppl fearful, then they can have more control over the population, cause ppl will go along with their mandates. They can throw laws out the window and come out with emergency laws. They can divide countries and make them weak. They can reduce the population by their jabs and put those who don't comply into internment camps (as they already have set up). And if you see it the way we and many other Christians see it, this is a "perfect" intro for the mark.
Can you guys plz explain why you guys think this is a major fraud by all these different countries pretending millions of people’s death. It doesn’t really make sense to me.
1 in 3 had the virus. Not died from it.
“New study finds 1 in 3 Americans had COVID-19 by the end of 2020” I wonder what’s the real death rate 🤔
Roger, maybe one day this will all make more sense to you 😀
Have you turned Scottish or sum? 😂
Hey, Sethers, plz check The Bible Brigade 😄
Yeah, there's much more than meets the eye
Micah, maybe one day this will all make more sense to you 🙏😁
How do u figure. U think America is taking a virus, making a huge deal about it for no reason, faking people dying, creating a vaccine to kill people, faking stats from around the world (while getting all the other governments to comply) and the only people who don’t want to comply are the Christians who had Christ tell them to comply unless it is a sin? Do you know how ridiculous all this sounds.
I didn't say he does know everything, but, just so you know, as far as I'm concerned, this whole mess is not based on science--actually far from it--it's based on lies, greed, and evil intent.
Loke he would know the scientific aspect. Just cuz he’s a holocaust survivor doesn’t mean that he knows everything 😂
"Holocaust survivor warns COVID-19 measures similar to Nazi Germany’s subjugation policies"
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump did say that, bc he pushed the production of the vax with Project Warp Speed. Just shows that Trump isn't perfect either 😕 That's obviously one area where I don't support him
I’ll look into that and see if he said that, the news twist a lot of stuff and is very liberal and anti God
Yeah, if you're going with what the CDC says, then no wonder you're not believing us 🙄
Oh man....@Micah, don't listen to either
Ummmm...Falsey is quite closely linked with the CDC. And the CDC is corrupt themselves.
Dr who? 😂 I haven’t listened to fuacci 😂 I listen to the CDC the centers for disease control 😂
And, until you look at your blood under a microscope, or someone else's (who's gotten the poison), than you really can't say that this SCIENTIFIC evidence is false. You're trusting "Dr." Falsey, but I'm going by what the REAL doctors and scientists are finding.
I really don't care what Trump said. Imo, he's part of this whole mess. Yes, he would be a lot better than Biden, but I'm not sitting under his counsel.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-biden-over-afghanistan-but-gets-booed-briefly-on-vaccines-at-alabama-rally
At a rally he told everyone to get vaxed.
I didn’t hear what he said, what did he say? I don’t listen to the news a lot because it’s filled with so much garbage, so hopefully it’s not from the. fake news😂
You are so gullible for things you have preconceived notions about. You should really check the credibility of your sources 😂
😂 who is this person who let his blood be put under a microscope 😂
Bc that's the only way you can tell if it looks poisoned
But, Micah, who said anything about the color? Have you looked at your blood under a microscope?
Also what do you think of what Trump said Sethers 😂
Except my blood is a regular color 😂 and so are my whole families blood.
That’s crazy! and so true!
Then in this second video, shows Graphene Oxide In Covid Vaccine Under Microscope. You can play it back on a fast speed and jump through it at fairly short intervals, (I muted it), but pay attention to the structures forming (especially in the last half of the video.) https://tinyurl.com/w3exbdzw
You've all got to see this! After watching these videos, you can't tell me the vaccine is not poison. This is insane. I recommend watching them on a faster speed. But you'll see in this first video how normal, healthy blood looks, and then how the blood in vaxed ppl looks (very, very unhealthy, and it looks eerily similar to graphene oxide.) https://tinyurl.com/fcedn4x7
Ummm, yeah, but they definitely weren't just annoying; it went way beyond that. It was pretty bad, but thank God, He didn't let them succeed in all their plans...
Some neighbors can be very annoying
😂 I'm not sure if the neighbors were happy or upset that we left. I don't know what they would've done if they had known we were about to move...
I agree, too. Yeah, that was quite the experience, Vera 😬 But it was kind of fun to do an undercover escape 😏
I very much agree with you Micah
Yep! Absolutely! I know all too well what you mean. My family and I went thru that back at the last neighborhood we lived at 😬 It wasn't pretty, and we literally had to secretly plan a move
Honestly tho, we r. The “Christians” that r not being persecuted r the ones who have compromised their beliefs so much they do not look like Christians anymore. We do get persecuted, but it is not the same kind of persecution.
Yeah...Did you guys know that the believers in persecuted countries are PRAYING that we Christians in the US would be persecuted? 😅 They think it's the best thing that could happen to us. And they're right!
It is bad, but Jesus said this would happen. It’s called persecution. It’s a bad/good situation. We should praise God for the persecution, because we have the honor for dying for Christ 😃
Well, I just heard about it last night. I don't doubt at all that the Taliban are planning to kill every Christian in Afghanistan. What we need to do is pray for the Christians...
And Micah, that’s absolutely false🤦♂️those Christians and actually getting killed as we speak, they have been going house to house killing anyone who is a Christian
Biden will let those Christians get killed because he doesn’t care about them and he isn’t a Christian
I’m not smart or high or “NOT DUMB” I just use common sense😉I wouldn’t have taken the us troops from Afghanistan, and I wouldn’t let those Christians get killed
Kinda, they said something about 2400 Christians were going to be beheaded tomorrow afternoon in Afghanistan but it was all faked by someone on social media.
Sethers. Sense ur all high, smart, and “NOT DUMB” what would u do?
I heard about it, it all happened because of our leadership in the country(Biden)he screwed up😠he is literally so dumb
What is it? Does it have anything to do with the Taliban?
Did anyone hear about the Afghanistan rumor that is spreading?
The kids definitely didn’t know 😢
CA Gov Jerry Brown and other politicians spoke well of Jim Jones prior to Jonestown 😬
The people who didn’t drink it were either shot, forced to drink it, or injected with drugs to die, but yeah, that’s where the term “drink the koolaid” came from
True... But take for example what happened back in the 70s. Those ppl in that cult literally drank the Kool aid bc their leader told them to, and they must've known it was laced with poison
they probably wouldn’t tell you it’s poison though…
Yeah. If the government told you to drink poison, Micah, would you do that just bc they're in authority, and "they know what's best"?
Good point, Vera. The government is breaking their own law and forcing us to destroy our health. And, Micah, you think God's ok with that, and wants us to just go ahead and endanger our health for no good reason when the gov isn't even with their boundaries? I don't think so.
Well, who said God said it's ok??
If there thing doesn’t go with their law we shouldn’t resist if god says it’s ok.
Yes! That's a good point! 😬
😬 I remember reading about the plan last year of using the virus to control travel
MEDICAL DICTATORSHIP: Biden wants to criminalize crossing state lines while “unvaccinated”
just like what the British were doing. The law straw was General Gage went to illegally confiscate the people’s firearms. Well, the redcoats met the minutemen at Lexington and fired the first shots of the war
Yeah, and what they're doing is not even lawful in my opinion, so that's double reason to not submit to it.
I obey the law, but when the law over comes what God wants the. I will not submit
Yeah, I agree with Roger Vera and Henry
or for Biden to ban ar15s without repealing the 2nd amendment
yeah, there’s a thing called rule of law. It’s not lawful when California takes everyone’s guns
Micah, why are you bring up guns and killing? I never said I was going to do that! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ I simply resist by NOT DOING IT, the same way you think is right. And I do think God cares about our rights as human beings. He's not some heartless dictator. That's not the way God is. Also, if we're expected to "keep the law" and submit to them, how come we have to let the government be above the law (which they are NOT) and break the law themselves? If we resist someone who's breaking the Constitution (the LAW) even if it's the government, then resisting that is UPHOLDING the laws of the land. They're breaking it, we're resisting that, so ultimately, we're simply abiding by the Constitution.
Micah, 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ we NEVER said we would go out with our guns 😂 (There is a time for war, tho. But I'm not saying that we're going to fight this.) So why are you talking about that??
Nononono! God doesn’t care about our rights! He cares about his law! We CAN NOT break his rule of submitting to authority! They might be winning but that doesn’t make it ok for us to sin! Let’s say they take our guns away... ok... so what? 😂 We give them our guns and submit! We won’t get all riled up about that! We may not be happy, or think it is right for them to do that, but we will submit. However. If they make it a rule that you have to abort your babies to control the population, we will resist. BUT we will resist ONLY by not obeying. Not by going out with our guns and killing people to “save lives”. If they break the amendments, that IS bad, but unless they break Gods law I will not (and think that God doesn’t want me) to resist. If the antichrist tells me to do something NOT contrary to Gods law, since he is my authority (just like Nero, Caesar, or Herod (all EVIL men) were authorities over the Jews) I will obey. BUT, if it is against God’s law I will resist, peacefully.
We're submitting to authority also (when it's rightly used according to the limits of their authority), but we're NOT going to submit to an antichrist agenda nor unlawful tyranny and abuse of governmental power.
I submit to authority, doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not. By submitting to authority I am obeying God. If that’s what I’m doing, then what is what you are doing? - Food for thought.
Welcome, Ellen Harmony! 😀
I don't know if any of you will want to read this but it's about "Jesuit controlled DHS now shifting narrative to label anti-vaxers as violent terrorists": https://tinyurl.com/rce3tw5z Near the end, it's appalling to read the Jesuit Oath of Induction. And the Jesuits are involved in world events...
Most of my YouTube ads are of Elizabeth Warren spouting propaganda in support of Newsom 😕
😕 Well, I hope that he eventually gets ousted.
as it’s divided* while Newsom is trying to unite the Dems to support him. There are still dem candidates though
There’s actually dozens of candidates, including a “college student” There’s issues with the CAGOP as it’s not divided between many candidates, Jenner being one of them
Yeah, except in those country’s the communist cheat on the votes, I learned about it just recently
Wow, Henry! 😕 It reminds me of the "elections" they have in banana republics and communist nations, where the ppl basically have only one person to vote for.
Yeah, but the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting sick, that’s why you are wearing the mask, but then the masks don’t work so you still have a chance of getting sick
Henry, hmm 🤨 It's like you get one governor out of office, but the other one you can vote for isn't much better
🤦♂️ but I could* without the “I want”
I literally haven’t gotten sick yet 😂 I also am in pretty good shape.
unrelated topic, but I want I could vote for Caitlyn Jenner as the CA Republican governor in the gubernatorial 🤨
Exactly! And that's what the Nuremberg code is supposed to prevent--experimentation on uninformed individuals
Micah, they are learning and experimenting.....on you and other people😬😏😂
Micah, btw, other health issues with masks are 1. not being naturally exposed to viruses--talk about weakening one's immune system (cause the experimental mRNA treatment doesn't do a lick of good with strengthening it). And 2. breathing out the many viruses in your body, them collecting in a culture on the mask, and then you breathing them back in. That's bad.
I've never even worn a real mask bc of covid. There have only been a handful of times where I had to put on a dinky half face shield just so that they wouldn't pester us 😂😂
And yes, I do, since they suggest it. They r learning, and since I don’t see anything SINFUL about wearing a mask, I will submit to authority.
I don’t 😂 when they don’t say I have to I don’t 😂
You probably still wear a mask even though you have the vaccine which goes to show that the vaccine doesn’t work and the masks don’t work
I wear a mask when I have to Micah, but I don’t do it just to do it like you do
Micah, I was thinking the same thing 😂
He even “wears” a mask?!?!?
I am getting more and more confused as Sethers talks. 🤨
I do wear a mask, just below my nose
Micah, I've already said, ppl should make their own decision. And when were we not being kind and respectful with our opinions?
You are twisting scripture. If the government tells us to wear a mask do it. But if they tell you to get vaxed... that is a little different (maybe). It is no different if you believe vaccination is not a sin. But jf you believe it is, and you conscience/God convicts you not to, I believe you shouldn’t. But the kind of resisting you do is not fighting or confrontational, it is just not doing it and letting others make their decisions. Also, always be kind and respectful with your opinions.
Yeah, that stinks 😕 @Micah, here are some verses that I feel apply to the whole mask mandate thing. You'll ofc think that they don't apply, but I think they do... "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is FREEDOM." (Think: freedom to BREATHE) "And we, who with UNVEILED FACES" (Think: UNMASKED faces) "all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit." So, in Christ, we have freedom. I'm not saying freedom to break the law, but freedom to exercise our basic rights (like to breathe), and not have our faces veiled/masked--covering up up the image and glory of God.
Nope, bc if the city mandates it and a business refuses to follow it, they’ll get shut down, whether it’s by the city or Yelp review bombs
Yes, it should really be one's own choice. Here, places don't make too much of a big deal at this point, if you come in without a mask. It's mainly employers that make an issue. Do you think places would let you in with a catering mask (half face shield)?
I would be refused entry everywhere (including churches), so I don’t really have a choice 🤷♂️
I don’t think a normal mask (not n95) will give brain damage as it doesn’t really block airflow. The law for mandatory masks is absurd imo, but I can wear one in a way that doesn’t significantly affect my o2/co2 levels (therefore no brain damage) while also abiding the law.
I believe this is all part of the evil agenda, and if we can't resist this (something so "small" as a mask or vaccine), who's to say we'll be able to resist when the bigger things come... like the mark of the beast?
Micah, I don't exactly think that wearing a mask is a sin (however an interesting tid bit is that a while back, we read an article about how the distancing, the masks, and the lockdowns are linked to occult rituals... something like that; it's been a while.) Anyway, I'm not going to tell anyone they can't wear a mask, that's their decision. But what I will say, is that if the government is forcing ppl to do something that could do permanent damage to their health (like brain damage, bc masks are very dangerous to one's health), I don't believe God expects us to do that to our bodies.
At my dads work (which is a hospital) they make you wear masks even if ur vaccinated also, I think this is great because they have seen it’s better and they don’t want to have people get ANY sickness in the hospital. It’s not just about covid. Their work is going to REQUIRE masks permanently from now on.
Is wearing a mask a sin? Unless the government tells you to do something that is sinful, shouldn’t you submit? Just to ponder....
I'll pray that you'll be able to get an exemption
Yeah, that would be nice! Too bad you can't also get an exemption from the mask and covid test 🤔
Yes! That would be great!
Then again, masks are required regardless of vaccination status. I wonder if I could get an exemption; 🤔 that would be nice
🤔 So my school released a resolution for covid immunizations, and it says students can get an exemption based on medical, disability, or religious grounds. Of course, those who are exempt must wear a mask at all times and have weekly negative covid tests
Exactly. It's pretty dumb 🤦🏼♂️😂
Yes, they will exempt you in the hospitals😏the dumb thing is that the hospital workers have to get the vaccine and still wear the masks, which doesn’t make sense because the vaccine and the masks supposedly work so why would you need to take the vaccine if you are wearing a mask? and why would you have to wear a mask if you have the vaccine?
The "yeah" was to Sethers btw 😅
Yeah. The government thinks they have the right to force it on the troops, bc they view the soldiers as "government property" 😔 That's why I don't know if they give exemptions or not.
Well they do in my dads work, and they created forms for people. And it would make sense since they don’t expect people with existing health conditions to take it and endanger their lives.
He’s assuming that they don’t because they haven’t done anything about that
Where do u see that they don’t? 😂
Micah, idk about that but I haven’t looked into that part either so... idk
Hmm... where did you see that the MILITARY ppl get exemptions?
No, you can get an exception! Also at my dads work they r doing the same thing (makes sense sense it is a hospital) You can get and exception.
Btw, Sethers, Slash is Wibbo, so he's already been here a while 😉😂
Welcome Slash and Jodi!!😎
Most of the enlisted military do not want to get it, but they are trying to force them to get it😏🙄
Um, I don't they even let them give an exemption. You can look it up, but chances are, they're playing hardball.
Think the mandate for troops is fine. You can still get out of it by giving a Religious or medical reason. If you don’t have one of those, then why not? We didn’t, so we got one.
I think the one about the baby had to do with this whole covid thing. It is so evil 😑
https://tinyurl.com/23vxzk2m
Wow. See these two short videos. Not sure why the baby was being taken away in the first one (it looks like this happened in Israel), but it makes me very upset. https://tinyurl.com/5f2tz6p4
If they say that about the cows then people must be worse, which goes to depopulation, which goes to all sorts of crazy ideas
Climate change isn’t happening on the level they say, I agree with that. The cows giving off more Co2 is not true though, a car gives off more then a cow
It’s not suprising though considering the history of servicemen being used a guinea pigs for experiments
Here's a headline: "Pentagon Pulls Trigger: Will Order All Troops To Get COVID Vaccine By Sept. 15 Under Threat of Court-Martial." That's terrible 😔
Yep, and they've already been doing it for years now 😕
what Bill Gates plan to do in 2022 = chemtrails
Huh, outta try Sethers' experiment suggestion 🙄😏 Besides, there's nothing we can do about it, even if it were true. What are we gonna do? Put air tight bags over the cow's rear ends? 😆 Also, chemtrails do exist. It's not a conspiracy theory anymore than you think your thing is a conspiracy theory.
All I’m saying is that Elon Musk was correct. Cows produce more Co2 per year than cars.
Climate change is not really even happening, not on the level most people believe. Chemtrails cannot be proven so plz stop spouting your conspiracy theories.
Micah, the whole global warming and climate change stuff they talk about is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. 🙄😂 The real climate change is happening bc of chemtrails, not bc of cows tooting 😆
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/cow-emissions-more-damaging-to-planet-than-co2-from-cars-427843.html
They’ve even known this since 2006!!!
https://animals.howstuffworks.com/mammals/methane-cow.htm
https://ourfuture.energy/quiz/cows-vs-cars-answers/
Bill Gates said that a cow gives off more carbon dioxide then a car😂🙄so let’s put him in a garage with a car running all night and I’ll go with the cow all night and we will see who lasts longer😂😂
Idk Micah, but it seems dumb to me
Bill Gates say that spraying aerosol in the atmosphere to block out the sun will save the planet 🙄 Where I live, there’s only smog if there’s a forest fire. Oh wait, Newsom didn’t mention to the voters that he had to go to Trump for help during those fires, and also for COVID, but looks like he just took all the credit
Wow, crazy stuff. 🤦♂️😂 I mean, give me a break! Banning plastic straws is not gonna save the planet! What they really need to do is stop the chemtrails! That will do a great deal more than getting rid of straws! 🙄
Banning plastic straws...🙄😂
Henry, that's ridiculous!🤦♀️
And of course it depends where you are in California
Every time I’ve been to California there has been soo much smog😏I keep thinking it’s just fog😂but it’s smog
Throwing compostable straws in the trash instead of compost bin is actually worst for the environment since it releases methane in its break down 🤦♂️
The politicians say that we are at the top when it comes to the environment, so it must be true. After all, we use now compostable straws that are inefficiently made since plastic straws are banned 😂
Have you noticed that California is the strictest on their “green deal” and yet they are one of the worst if not the worst polluters in the United States😂they are proving that this “green deal” doesn’t work
Man, that is horrible news! that’s California though😒
I am about halfway through the capitalism vs socialism
episode, and I actually think that one is pretty good, as well. I think he's quite spot on, at least from what I've heard so far.
I'll have to check that link out tomorrow, Henry, but it doesn't sound good 😬
All they need to do is put a "WARNING: ... POLITICAL EXTREMISTS SUPPORTING PRESIDENT TRUMP’S HATEFUL ATTACKS ON CALIFORNIA" to get voters to ignore all the damage and corruption Newsom is doing and to reelect him instead. 😔
🤦♂️Check out Gov Newsom's response to the recall from the CA gubernatorial election voter's guide: https://tinyurl.com/5d29mc7j
I listened to the episode on capitalism vs socialism and thought it was good.
Same with my dad, cuz of course my dad is the same dad as her dad 😆
Ehh, we'll see about that...I don't know how crazy my dad would be about the idea 😅
Check it out Roger/Vera! It is very good! And don’t stop listening to an episode because of a differing opinion. He makes great points and I love how he always comes back to the Bible to get his answers.
Yeah, I think it is COVID and the elections😏
I've never heard of that podcast, and I have no clue who that guy is 😅
The backwards thing is stupid but I think that u r right. It IS dividing the country, but I don’t think it is 100% covid. I think the majority is the junk of the election. People blaming other people and getting all riled up. It’s so stupid. Btw I recommend a podcast called wretched radio, y’all should 1p0% listen to it (you will either know about it or hate Todd Freil or listen to it already most likely)
Oh! I hadn't seen them either 😅 Yes!
Yep. And, btw, Sethers, I hadn't seen your messages down there bc we had posted at the same time 😅 But, yeah, you're exactly right.
ot surprised tho...there's a lot of evil things going on behind the scenes that we don't know about....
Now, what that seems to stand for, which would make sense given the present crisis, is "division of country" or "division of countries". Either way, this plandemic is being used to cause division in this country, and in the world. And as you know, division brings destruction. All apart of the enemy's plan for the end times.
Btw, interesting fun fact, my dad pointed out today something I have never noticed before. As you know, an occult practice is to write and perform things backwards. Also, the elite ppl in power who are "controlling" world events are apart of the occult.
Now, get this (and Micah will TOTALLY balk at this 😂), if you spell the word Covid backwards, it ends up being div oc.
If the masks work, why do you need to get the vaccine? if the vaccine works, why do we have to wear masks? it’s all political as you guys can see
And I think it’s ridiculous to get the vaccine because they are still going to make you wear the masks
I believe Fauci said that, he is in all of this for the money
Micah, gotta get chur facts straight 😏
Wow, Henry, I didn't know about Falsey saying that. Pretty bad, but not surprising. 😕
sorry 😂 my brother told me 🤦♂️
Micah, where's the proof? All I've heard of is the emergency use authorization. And this thing hasn't even gone thru proper testing.
Fauci says himself he believes in mandatory vaccination
From the UPI: He added that the federal approval could lead to "the empowerment of local enterprises," such as businesses, colleges and universities, to mandate COVID-19 vaccines. "I strongly support that," said Fauci. "The time has come and we've got to go the extra step to get people vaccinated. You want to persuade them, that's good. And I believe that some people, on their own, once it gets approved as a full approval will go ahead and get vaccinated. But for those who do not want, I believe mandates at the local level need to be done."
Fauci: Full FDA approval may lead to 'empowerment' of vaccine mandates
No they are not, but they want it to
FYI, the vaccine is now approved by the FDA.
I see Micah’s point, but they are being mean on purpose, no one just is mean on accident.
Let me tell you about a place where ppl can't just leave. There is an island under the control of New Zealand, called Tokelau. There the vaccine is being mandated. There are pastors and Christians who have refused to be vaxxed. Guess what's happening to them? The have been told to stay in their houses--against their will. They can't come out. They also can't just leave the island. They're stuck. My dad and a Christian retired doctor friend of ours were praying about this, and the friend said he believes this is a trial run. They're experimenting over there. That's exactly what my father was thinking. Then my mom said the same thing without knowing that my dad and our friend had said that. I take that as confirmation. It's coming to a town near you.
Ummm, yeah. But I'm trying to show you, it's already started, and it's going to get worse.
Bad. So? 😂 those r schools. BOTH OF THEM! They have their own choices, not right, but change schools.
ummm, Micah, no. That's not it, at all. You can't just make excuses for this kind of behavior. It's damaging these children, and it is inexcusable. Let me tell you about two more incidents. (Actually, I'll tell you about the second one a little later.) In our home state of NH, there was a school prom, and the unvaccinated students who went to it were marked with a sharpie and followed about throughout the evening. They were intentionally humiliated, and school officials made a visible uncomfortable display when they were around. Every three songs, the unvaccinated students had to stop, disengage from their partner, and hold up their "tattooed" arm, so that they could be identified and logged for tracking purposes. "'They also left the list of student names (first and last) with the info on whether they were vaccinated or not on a table outside after the prom,' reported New Hampshire Rep. Melissa Litchfield, quoting a constituent who informed her about the disturbing details." And this should definitely NOT have been done. If you want to read the article I got this from, here it is: https://tinyurl.com/xt6vx83c
It’s how covid works. They want to be safe, but end up being mean. They don’t try to be mean, but they are. Thye are not trying to segregate, but separate her from the other kids, so that, she will have a less of a risk catching or spreading covid. This is their logic. They are doing it for the right reason, but the result is bad. They should really give her a face shield or something and include her more.
So it was basically about two moms sharing their stories about their daughters. The daughters had to wear masks at school (two different schools, as far as I know). One of the girls got Staph infection on her face four times, and it couldn't heal properly bc she wasn't able to face the mask off long enough. The doctors told the mom that it could end up turning into something serious if it didn't heal, so the girl got an exemption. Bc she was no longer wearing a mask, she was segregated, put in a separate part of the room from the other students, put at the back of lines, and treated like a leper. The other girl, when she got an exemption for something, was put in a glass cubicle and treated differently than the other students. I think either one or both of these girls was mentally retarded. No doubt this is happening elsewhere; it is inhumane and child abuse.
Noah, oh ok. That's alright. I will try to summarize it then. 😅