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KL, I'm not trying to offend anyone but even if I do it doesn't mean I should stop telling the truth.
JJ, I really think you should change the name of your group. I'm not going to try to convince you whether we are right or wrong. I know what I believe, and that's up to you to decide. If you think SDA is not the Right religion that's what you want to believe. I'm just going to say that calling it "SDAs are Wrong" isn't getting the message across. This isn't teaching or challenging a belief system. It's bullying a people group. If there was something wrong with the Catholic belief system I wouldn't go outright and say "Catholics are wrong " because that's attacking a person, not a religion. The belief is wrong, not the people so "Catholic religion is a false religion" (No offense, this is an example.) It's the same with other religions. Just say "_______ is not the true faith" It's the belief that is wrong, not the people. So if you believe that the SDA faith is wrong, at least just say that. I believe it is right, but I can't change your beliefs.
Paul and the early Christians did not keep the Sabbath. Maybe you are referring to Paul’s habit of visiting the synagogues in Sabbath (that’s not actually keeping the Sabbath) for the purpose of speaking to the Jews. He at first was a minister to the Jews until they utterly rejected him, then he stopped visiting the synagogues. You see in Acts 15 the Jerusalem Counc where Peter and Paul were talking about what rules the new Christian’s should follow. They decided, ““You must abstain from eating food offered to idols, from consuming blood or the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. If you do this, you will do well. Farewell.”” Acts of the Apostles 15:29
I don’t think Paul is saying that in Colossians. He specifically says, “…for NOT celebrating…Sabbaths”. Paul talks about the different covenants in Galatians. I’d take a look at that book if I were you.
I am saying that Jesus fulfilled the law, all 613 rules of it, on the cross. His death was the end of the Old Covenant. He fulfilled that for us. We as believers in Christ are under a different covenant, the new covenant. Hebrews 8:13 says, “When God speaks of a “new” covenant, it means he has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear.”
The Bible says that Heaven will be like Edom but with a price that Jesus paid. If so wouldn’t there be a day set apart if there was in Edom. If so wouldn’t that day be the Seventh day. .
So do you think Paul by saying condemn you on Sabbaths is saying do not let people correct you when you keep your Sabbaths or what day when God says the Sabbath is the day of Lord. Why would God hallow bless and sactify a day that his son would abolish. That doesn’t sound like God..
Then if you believe that Sabbath is not Sunday are you not kinda going against the law. Or are you saying Jesus paid it on the cross? If you are then why did Paul and everyone else after Christ death keep the Sabbath.
oh I would never say that Sabbath is Sunday. Sabbath was on the 7th day, our Saturday. My argument is that Sabbath was fulfilled in Christ. Colossians 2:16-17 says, “So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.”
In Mathew 28:8. It talks about the end of the Sabbath before the 1st day of the week Of there is 7 days in a week what day would the Sabbath be if you use our calamder?
Emma, I understand that you think you proved something to us. But you really just told us what you believed with no sources to back you up. We have told you from the Bible what we believe. No one is trying to make you say anything, we are just discussing ideas.
guys ,no ….I am done …I have proved many times before ,so have my friends ,you just won’t listen ,all you want is to trick me into saying something that will go against my beliefs…I am done I don’t need to prove myself anymore more .I am done ,we have told you hundreds of times
btw hi guys long time no see lol
yes because once saved always saved is wrong !
So we are not free to sin even though we are under grace. But that doesn’t mean we lose our salvation if we do sin.
I read it. I think it brings home my message. The law doesn’t hold us any longer. Christ died so we could be from sin. just because grace abounds does that mean we should sin all the more? For heavens sake, no!
“For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God. And when Christ, who is your life, is revealed to the whole world, you will share in all his glory.” Colossians 3:3-4
when we accept Jesus as our sacrifice, we are hidden in him, totally. God sees him, not us. So we are not judged.
You can see from this verse that those who believe will never be condemned for their future sins.
Jesus also said in John 5:24, ““I tell you the truth, those who listen to my message and believe in God who sent me have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.”
That was a bad example. Sorry
Then why is there still a law of when we sin it is forgiven? That is like the goverment saying no driving and drinking. But people are still doing that. Many people are killed by that.God God dosent want us to have that aditide. The verse you said is not talking about once saved always. But that God paid it and he willingly will forgive your sins if you repent. Paul says Repent of yours sins and be cleansed not God had died and we are already forgiven. It comes to ways you ask sincerely and God will forgive not I am always forgiven..
When we accept Jesus as our sacrifice, he forgives us for past, present, and future sins. He is not standing in the most holy place applying his blood to our sins when we repent. He has sat down at the right hand of the father. Priests were not allowed to sit down in the temple so this means that Jesus finished his atoning work.
and Hebrews 10:12 says, ““but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God,”
“By this will, we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all time.”
So Cowgirl, I understand your example about someone being mean do you expect them to ask for forgiveness. However, God is not like that after the first covenant. In Hebrews 10:10 it says, “
Ima go on the computer to answer yall cause it will take too long on the phone and I hate autocorrect.
Pope's are heretics if they call themselves God.
Jesus never said the Sabbath was changed. The Catholic Pope John Paul something clearly says that The Catnolics changed the Sabbath not the Bible Let me ask you a Question do you think it is kinda suspicious that The Pope who calls himself God is saying yes that Sunday is the Sabbath. I would be. Not only does he think that he is God he Says he is One with God. God says that that is blasphemy saying that someone else then God is God.
Sorry for the typoes I ment Jesus for all the miss spelled names..
Of sin for us the sin we had done was put on Jesus
To really love God you would repent to God off your sins. When Jesus paid the price of sing for us the son we had done was put on Lexus and taken away from us. When God looked at us he saw white robbed people Hyperbably speaking not what we should have looked like because of our sins Jesus paid it on the cross with his blod. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whosoever believes in him should not parish but have everlasting life.John 3 :16 Kesus forgave us of our sins but we should not be careless about our sinning. We should not be saying .Oh God forgave I am okay I still go to Heaven No That is taking advantages of what God has done for us.
If you ask someone to forgive you then isn't it the same way with God? shouldn't you be constantly asking Him for forgiveness if you do something wrong. Its not once saved always saved. the Bible says the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through christ Jesus our Lord. if we constantly sin but don't repent or ask for forgiveness then the consequences for our sins is death. But if we repent and ask for forgiveness then we gain eternal life through Christ.
Yes, God is forgiving and merciful. But if you hurt someone or are mean to someone do you just expect them to forgive you or do you ask for forgiveness?
We aren't going to be perfect and always clean, but God is forgiving and merciful. No matter what we do.
Everyone has different beliefs. But once saved always saved it true.
Okay, well listen. If we sin, we will still go to heaven. If we go murder someone, yes. It's horrible! But one sin is as bad as the other. It doesn't mater if we sin or not. If we are truly saved, we will go to Heaven. It doesn't matter what we do, as long as we are truly saved. Now if u claim to be saved and then go murder someone? Well obviously there's something wrong going on with you, and u prolly aren't truly saved. But God says that it doesn't matter if we sin or not. as along as we are truly saved, we will enter the kingdom of heaven. Murderer or not. I was just talking with a friend of mine on this, and we both said that it doesn't matter whether we sin or not.
The Sabbath was for man and not man for the Sabbath. We should not on are own choose what day we serve but the day the Lord Jesus served. According to your logic that the Sabbath changed. Jesus went on Saturday. Not on Sunday. Jesus is the perfect example. Jesus would be breaking his own law if he changed it. Jesus never sinned and will never. He will not make his people sin either. Jesus Christs is the same yesterday today and forever. Hebrews something.
Not all SDA believe Ellen .G.White is a prophet. And When God raised the people from the dead don’t you think that would be mean of him to take people from Heaven and bring them down to earth. Or take someone from Hell and have them relive Hell again? That would be cruel and mean.
Never in the Bible did God ever say to worship the day he rose either. Did the Bible say Jesus and his desciples went and worshiped God on that day? Nope.
Thanks you Emma for what you said.
Why would God say Remember The Seventh day to keep it holy. If he knew people would always keep it. God knew people were going to forget what he said so he said Remember. The 4 commandment is the only one he said that.
failure is what refines us and messing up is what brings us back to Jesus
but I still stumble I still fail ,but each time I fail ,I learn a lesson ,and God lifts me back up and helps me
I have been baptized and I still sin a lot ,it’s natural,but one thing changed after I was baptized I really started to try my best to live my life for God
once we walk through the waters of baptism,our Sins our washed away ,but does that mean we are saved and perfect
so if he was saved then he went out started cussing and denying Jesus …
so Peter ,Jesus’s apostle was he saved
God knows our weekness that’s why he didn’t make it like that he knows that if he did people would say I am saved so I can do anything I want
see that doesn’t make sense
sooo example ….I am saved for good ,then I go and murder someone lie. steal and. more .I am still saved right
so um ….let me think 💭 oh here I got it
no offense but ,once saved always saved doesn’t really make sense
Yeah, it's odd that they dont.
That’s true Sophia, they certainly don’t.
Yes Larissa, Sorry I guess my message wasn't clear. I do understand. Jesus is the our Sabbath rest now. Thanks for correcting me.😉😁
And that they dont believe in once saved always saved.
The things that SDAs are wrong about: 1) the investigative judgement 2)Ellen White as a prophet 3)the state of the dead 4)The Sabbath continuing in the New Covenant
I have to disagree with one thing you said JJ and that is that Sunday is the new Sabbath. Sunday is the Lord’s Day. It is a day of worship. Saturday was a day of rest for the Jews. the Lord’s Day didn’t replace the Sabbath, it’s a new thing. Jesus is our Sabbath rest now. But anyway, I think you know that.
I'm not saying that discussion about these important topics is wrong, I'm just saying I agree we should be considerate.
If we become to focused on our controversy we can set the day above the reason for the day and not honor God in what we say and do.
Ultimately what matters is that we are worshipping God.
But ultimately it is up to our consciences to belive and do what is right. Romans 14:5-6a: 5One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord.
Please read the verses in this group, they are very helpful.
Sunday is the new Sabbath.
And that was relevant to the Jews before Christ came. But after Christ's death he was raised on Sunday and the old covenant was broken and the new covenant was established. Read the book of Galations for more on this. The disciples worshiped on Sunday after he died and rose again and all true Christians after them.
Yes the Sabbath is the day of rest.
That's not all that is wrong, there's much more, but that's the main one yall stick to.
Actually it doesn't say anything about Saturday. It does say that the seventh day is the Sabbath
the bible actually says we should rest on Saturday because saturday is the seventh day
Per one SDAs belive we should worship on Saturday not Sunday
and I never said that everything a person believes is right
And the truth will set you free.
But I WILL stand for the truth.
I do not want to cause enmity between brothers, I would like to be friends.
If you wanna argue about your cult then do that. But don't try to tell people that they are wrong to stand up to you.
That's just the way it is. No way around it.
And if the gospel is true then their false beliefs are wrong.
We must share the good news with everyone regardless of what they belive.
It clearly says the opposite.
There is no verse in the. Bible that tells us to keep our faith to ourselves and to just belive the lie that all religions are equal.
Your argument has no firm basis.
Exactly. If we know The Truth we need to tell people about it.
I am not trying to attack any people. I am attacking some peoples false ideas.
And if we said no religions were wrong that would be going against the Bible. We would not tell others about The Truth because we would have to be too "careful" and no one would get saved.
Oh so if someone is a Muslim and they are going to murder people we shouldn't tell them they are wrong? We should just respect their belief and let them kill us?
We should all stand up for what we believe in, and we also shouldn't tell others that their belief are wrong. God made each one of us different, he didn't make one person better than another, what you decide to believe in is your choice not a choice that someone else should make for you. once you decide what you believe in you should stand up for it even if it means you lose friends. again i'm not saying your beliefs are wrong, I just think that you should respect what others believe in and not tell them that they are wrong.
I'm not trying to tell you that your beliefs are wrong, all I'm saying is that NO ONE should tell you your beliefs are wrong, and NO ONE should tell us that we are wrong
you might be used to it, but it doesn't make what others are saying right. people shouldn't tell you that your beliefs are wrong, there just different from what others believe
I don't mind, because I've been told alot
Do you like when people tell you your beliefs are wrong?
They tell us our beliefs are wrong all the time.
JJ you can think that SDA's are wrong, everyone has a choice on what they believe. But do you really think that making a group called "SDA's are Wrong!" will help you get your point across. I'll admit that I haven't really looked into what other people believe, but I do have some family members who are Catholic. Look I'm not trying to change your beliefs, all I'm saying is that we should respect what others believe and not tell them that they are wrong. the Bible says in Matthew 7:12 - Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is in the Law and the Prophets. Would you want everyone telling you that your beliefs are wrong?
Jeremiah 31:31 says, ““Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, NOT LIKE the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord.”
@MarilynSDA A lot to respond to! I'm a little confused by your comment that the New covenant encompasses the Old Covenant. How did you come to that conclusion?
@Panther Yes you are right! We shouldn't be lying or stealing or murdering! But not because the 10 commandments tell us not to. As Paul says in Romans 7, For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
This commandment is only found in the 10 commandments. So the 10 Commandments = the law. Paul also says, in Romans 7, "But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."
We walk in the Spirit now. He leads us in all truth and goodness. The fruit of the Spirit is as you know, "love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."
Instead of fighting against us, you should be learning all you can from us so you can be ready for the awful end time events just before us. We can, and are very willing to, help you get through the severe storm just ahead. We are not trying to argue. That is not the point. Our purpose is to save as many as we can before it is too late!
God raised up the Seventh-day Adventist denomination to clear up the errors that have filtered into the different church denominations over the years. We have the Truth about the state of the dead, true baptism, when the final lake of fire takes place (a one time event), God's holy seventh-day Sabbath (established at Creation), when judgment takes place, the true order of events involving the Earth, the actual second coming of the Lord, the validity of the ten commandments (the law from which we will be judged against), the 1000 years in heaven, and so on.
The Catholic Church brought much error into their denomination to try to convert the pagans, but they ended up placing heavy burdens upon their own followers because of their lies.
And they are responsible for the rise of the reformation when many were burned at the stake for differing with the Catholic Church.
They are also the ones that came up with the lie about an eternal hellfire. They wanted to scare people enough to keep them in their denomination. The people would be too fearful of doing something else.
If you think that you are doing the Lord's will by worshiping on Sunday, think again. It was a day established by the Catholic Church. They laugh at you Protestants that do that.
James 2:12 KJV "So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the [whole] law of liberty." We will be judged by all 10 conditions of the law.
James 2:10-11 KJV "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For He that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." He also said to "remember the Sabbath to keep it holy."
Our beliefs are right, but you have not studied them out to understand where we are coming from.
But your beliefs are wrong.
Most of you are good and kind people.
To be mean to a person is wrong. But to challenge a belief is not wrong. If it was wrong then telling others about Jesus would be wrong. I am not trying to attack any of you as people. I am attacking your false religion, not you.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE MEAN AND HURTFUL TO PEOPLE.
Also, FYI, KL, I am older than Emma.
I will keep the discussion posts, I will not delete them like on FES, but if you want to slander me I will not keep those posts.
Kitty Lover, I am not trying to be rude, but you could not rightfully say that my religion is wrong because my religion is evangelical Christianity. I don't think you think that is wrong.
I forgive you too, JJ. I know what you have done, but I know what I have done too. And God has forgiven me, so He can forgive you too. And I will love and forgive you. Because Jesus died for me and you, and we are both sinners, so in God's eyes, we are all the same. I thank you for changing your pic.
jj I know what you have done and how you haven’t been the nicest but I still love u and I forgive you
@Larissa: There is no such thing as the Nine Commandments, or only Two Commandments. Many in the main body of the Christian church teach that the Ten Commandments were nailed to the cross. They are committing blasphemy and taking on the role of God. The only laws that were no longer applicable were the ceremonial laws. No more animal sacrifices were required because the true Lamb had been slain. The veil in the temple was split down the center with God's own hand to show that no more sacrifices were needed. How do I know that? The split was from the top to the bottom.
The debt had been paid by Jesus, God's only begotten Son.
I meant to say that "those (meaning the ceremonial laws) no longer have to be kept" because Christ, the true lamb, was slain and arose as our Lord and Savior.
@Larissa: Jesus was a Jew. He kept the Sabbath, and His Apostles and disciples after Him kept the Sabbath. So the 4th Commandment is still valid. The entire Christian world is keeping holy the wrong day, Sunday (which is the first day of the 7 day week). God instituted the sacredness of the Seventh-Day Sabbath in Genesis 2:2,3. The Catholic church is behind the change of the Sabbath from the seventh-day worship to worship on the first day. The Catholic Church gives themselves credit for this change; ask any Catholic priest. This happened when Constantine became a nominal Christian and instituted the day in order to stop the division between the pagans and the early Christian church leaders.
@Larissa: Here are some key verses that will clear up the confusion. Matthew 22:40 - "On these two commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets." Malachi 3:6 - "For I am the LORD, I change not." Ecclesiastes 3:14-15 - "I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever: nothing can be put to it, nor anything taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before Him. That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past." 1 John 2:3-4, 6 - "And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought Himself also so to walk, even as He walked."
@Larissa: I have read what you said about the ten commandments. I have to address your comments because you are sharing incorrect info with those that you influence. Yes, it is a new covenant, but this new covenant embodies the old covenant (but not the ceremonial laws). Those no longer have to be kept because Christ, the true Lamb, was slain, and has arisen as our Lord and Savior. The Ten Commandments were written with God's own finger in stone and kept as a permanent record stored "inside" the Ark of the Testimony. The ceremonial laws were stored on the "side" of the Ark. The first four laws of the Ten Commandments represent our duty to God. The remaining six are our duty to man.
Wednesday, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:32 AM
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@Larissa: Thanks for responding!!! I get what you are trying to say. I know that when Jesus died He brought about a new covenant, but it is still wrong to steal, lie, and commit adultery. We do not need to observe the Sabbath because of what you said but we still can’t sin because of the new covenant. I also want to say that it is not right that there are groups that project the falsehoods of this world but they are not so blunt in their opinions. Please just change the name of the group to something a bit more respectful. Thanks!!!😉
jj Larissa panther Mathias, we all have free choice ,I have chosen to follow Christ obey him and allow him to lead and obey the TRUTH of the Bible … I have tried my best 😔
jj listen I have never stood up to you before because I was afraid,you actually intimidated me ,but I realized if I am not strong in my faith I won’t be strong in anything,I know I will pry lose the respect of many of my friends and even friendships by saying that ,I am gonna stand up for the truth ! you can be rude intimidate me call me mean unkind names ,whatever ! I don’t care ! all I have ever wanted was for you to see the truth ! I realize that if I don’t stand firm on something I will fall for anything,you can’t hurt me anymore. I have spent nights in tears praying that you will see the truth … lie about me don’t care about me hate me whatever! if I lose friends, maybe I will be gaining a eternal friend, “ He is no fool who gives what he can’t keep ,to gain what he cannot lose
I could say the same exact thing about your religion,I can make a group right now called your religion is wrong ! but I am not going to ! and truth doesn’t offend me !what you think the truth is does !
you are the one slandering us and our names ! have I made a group called your religion is wrong!?!? we’ll have I ?no ! you know why because I am not trying to be hurtful or rude to people you could have at least named this group “our religion is right” and not be rude ! because that is not speaking the truth all it is ,is slandering sda’s and being rude and unkind, we are not wrong !!!
jj! you aren’t respecting us by making a group called “SDAS ARE WRONG “!
Panther, part of the reason I named this SDAs are Wrong is because when you look up the word SDA it's right under FESDA. So then people will click on it and here the truth. The other part is that it is true, so why shrink from the truth?
Panther, I know Marilyn loves to slander me because I stand for the Truth, but they are just words. What can man do to me?
Also, just because people are offended by JJ’s group title doesn’t mean that JJ is wrong. JJ is telling the truth. If people are offended by the truth, that is their problem.
The 10 commandments have disappeared because we are under Jesus’ new covenant which is not like the first covenant.
Hi Panther, I just wanted to react to your saying that we shouldn’t neglect the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments are part of the old covenant that was given to the Israelites. Deuteronomy 4:13 says, “So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.” Hebrews 8:13 says, “When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is about to disappear.”
Tuesday, Jan 23, 2024 at 9:03 PM
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@JJ: You should actually rename it “Cults that have influenced our world and by they are wrong”.
Tuesday, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:40 PM
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@JJ: I thank you for responding. I have read Galatians and it is one of my favorites. (Another great book is James but that’s off the point). Instead of deleting this group how about you rename it. Because saying outright that SDAs are wrong can be offensive to certain people. How about you name it “Cults that have influenced our world.” Then put in the group description “One of the most misleading cults today it Seventh-Day Adventist. In this group we are going to discuss why this cult is wrong and many others. Please join us.” I know that you might not want to say it that way or maybe you want to do something else but please change it. There has been A LOT of bad stuff going on about you in FINAL EVENTS SDA. I don’t want your reputation to get worse. I am NOT a Seventh Day Adventist. Nor do I agree with them. I am just trying to help. THANKS!!!😉
@Panther, we should respect them as people, as we respect any other people who follow false religions. But we should not affirm their false views, because that would lead others away from the truth and put a stumbling block before them. I advise you to read the book of Galatians, for God's laws on the new covenant.
why they have groups on were their right but aint nobody telling them to delete their groups
Monday, Jan 22, 2024 at 3:42 PM
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This being said, SDAs so sometimes say that you need to follow the “Leviticus” rules such as the things you eat. This does kind of imply a works based faith. While works are important for the Christian faith and we should do good works, we need to remember that it is by faith alone in Christ alone. I advise that you read James 2. Please take this into consideration.
Monday, Jan 22, 2024 at 3:37 PM
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And one more thing, SDAs are not wrong. God does not command Christians to worship on Saturday or on Sunday. Some SDAs believe that we must not eat meat or work on Saturday, but when Christ died He brought about a New Commandment. This does NOT mean that was should neglect the Ten Commandments. It is still wrong to murder, steal, and commit adultery.
Monday, Jan 22, 2024 at 3:32 PM
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@JJ: I really think you need to delete this group. It’s offending a lot of people. I do not agree with SDAs personally BUT we need to respect their beliefs. We need to speak the truth IN LOVE.
They're coming for u JJ lol.
I'm weirder than you lol.
I mean, of course I'm dang weird.
Guys, please. Everyone has different beliefs. Some people might think your beliefs are wrong, and other are wrong as well. God loves everyone, and even if some people stick to some things that others think are wrong, God isn't going to stop loving them. And honestly, people are too sensetive about beliefs. Please stop arguing. No body is wrong. JJ you might think that Emma's beliefs are wrong, but that's only because u haven't known any other belief then ur own. Emma, you may think we're wrong, but that's also only because u don't know any other belief. Different beliefs don't matter. God loves us anyway, and no matter what we think. Please just be friends and stop arguing.
and yes you did look at the group name !
they are biblically correct name one that isn’t
jj , it’s to late you have hurt me … and my beliefs are not ! wrong
I don't want to hurt you, but I have to stay to the Truth.
I value you as a friend, but I'm not going to change my beliefs just because you have different ones.
I don't call all your beliefs wrong. Only the ones that aren't biblically correct.
jj I don’t mean to be rude ,but this is kinda offensive to me how would you feel I’f I made a group called your beliefs are wrong plz delete this group that is kinda hurtful that you said all my beliefs are wrong
Hey guys!! How is everyone today? 🤗
jj … for by faith not by works … 😔I have shared my truth bb
… for by grace you have been saved through faith and this is not your own doing it is the gift of God ,not a result of works ,so that no one May boast .for we are his workmanship ,created in Christ Jesus for good works .which god prepared before hand ,that we should walk in them —Ephiasians 2:8–10
jj and others if you believe once saved always saved
if you would like to learn more about sda’s please join my group called what sda’s believe
maybe I will join later if I need to speak out for the truth good bye and God bless .love —Emma
jj I am leaving I have told you the truth and have tried to speak it in as kind a manner as I can I will not stay on this group because I don’t want anything to sway me from the truth I hope one day you to will see the truth about the sabbath god and different things I hope I do not offend anyone forgive I I do but good bye
I read the whole message wall 😮💨 Man it was alot of reading. That was super helpful. And it agreed with alot of Larissa had to say. She it's super smart, and I don't think Marilyn should be taking over that group. Yeah I get that she is 800 years old, but she has no right to be...how did she put it? "Trashing people " for not believing in nonsense. I don't care what she has to say. We glorify God every day, not just on the Sabbath. Every day should be the sabbath. Jesus is to be glorified and we should respect that not only one day in the week should we only praise and meditate onhim. we should always be doing it. Marilyn doesn't know what she has believed, everything she stands for is a lie. and frankly in my book...breaking the commandments for change. She doesn't need to tell everyone what to do. And not going by God's word to change to glorifying Him every day, is pretty much breaking everything they stand for as Christians.
Do what the group description says, btw.
AND, I totally don't get it when the SDAs fast on Sunday and Saturday, Is it weird only to me? Or do you agree?
Not resting on the Sabbath lol. I mean the sabbath lol.
I mean, I agree with you, and I read down, and I totally agree on everything you said. So many people believe in keeping the Sabbath day (or Sunday) holy, and don't do anything but rest, and meditate on God. But that is kinda like a SDA thing I guess. You were right when you said that resting on Sunday was changed after Christ arose. And I'm not saying that SDAs are sinful, they are just different, and even though they have their beliefs, so does everyone. But, in my opinion, everything you said is correct. No matter what anyone else said. (side-eyeing Emmas name on the chat) And I think that SDAs are wrong with their beliefs but, who am I to say anything about it to them? They'd just start yelling and sputtering out lame things like nonsense.
Anyways, getting off the subject.
Different people have different standards of what, "no work" means.
I can drive to church tho.😁
I can’t tell u what to do jj that is between u and god
No, it's their choice not urs.
yes we have an actual church
No, I mean, when we go out to eat, I can't drive.
it would kinda be like we were making them break the fourth commandment
but we aren’t making them work
Other people will buy it.
yes of course u can drive god made the seventh day holy for a rest day he new if we worked and did everything all week we would get super tired so he gave us a day of rest
They're still going to make the food even if you don't go.
Do you have like a actual church?
we don’t go out to eat Saturday because we’ll we wouldn’t be working but we would be causing others to break the fourth commandment by making them work to make our food
we still of course but we don’t go out to eat we eat at home or sometimes we go to different people houses
Sometimes we go out to eat on Sunday.
yes we don’t do school or go out to eat or anything like that
You didn't know that verse?
Also, Hebrews 8:13: When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.
do you want to ask more questions about why we do no work on Saturday
that is talking about something totally different
Hebrews 10:9:He takes away the first law that he might establish the second.
yes that’s why we don’t play games a bunch but Saturday sabbath was set apart holy to spend all our time with god and to think only on him and meditate on his word
and about what u said about the law changing look up Mathew 5 :18
But, wouldn't they distract you every other day too?
no we do not play games sabbath but we do the dishes god didn’t mean it that way he meant for us to take care of ourselves and our house but we don’t play games like Minecraft because that would distract us from focusing on Jesus
So, next Saturday, I can just have fun and di no work?
That's what it means right?
So, on Saturday, you don't lift a finger to do the dishes and play Minecraft all day. Nice.🙂👍
And Where exactly does it say that?
the Bible says six days shalt thou labor and do all of thine work but the seventh day is the sabbath of the lord thy god in it you shall do no work
Col. 2:16-17: So don't let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.
And Col. 2:16-17 also shows that the Sabbath is an old part of the law that Christ replaced.
Romans is very clear on that.
Also, God has set us free from the law.
And anyways, Paul and the apostles used Sunday as their day of worship.
Tell me how and why and when it wasn't?
no it wasn’t tell me how and when and why it was changed when Christ rose from the dead
Yes, but that was changed when Christ rose from the dead.
first the Bible clearly states the seventh day is the sabbath of the lord our god
what would u like me to start out with
first I would like to start off with the fact sda’s are NOT wrong
Saturday, Nov 25, 2023 at 3:30 PM
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lol I’m going to leave this group and go over there 👉🏼. See yah !!,!
Yeah, I just created this group so that it could be higher up on the leaderboard and people would join and go straight to Former SDAs.😅😉👍
Wednesday, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:52 PM
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ok thanks!
If you really want to know, read the group description and do what it says.👍😉
Saturday, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:00 PM
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I am NOT supporting them or agreeing with them but I just wanted to know.
Saturday, Nov 18, 2023 at 8:29 PM
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How are they wrong?
Siri on Former SDAs has some really great stuff!