well I’ll leave this group for now until you are able to talk or we could debate on Former Seventh Day Adventist’s-Renewing our minds.
problem is this group is not active like seventh day Adventist’s renewing our minds and things, where the debates are better, I am trying to cut down on groups and have more time for verses, contact me on code group, but for now I must leave
yes it is tough. and it requires activeness if you want to keep up with the debate.
if you join seventh day Adventist’s renewing our minds beware, it’s a really tough group with full on belief questioning and you have to do lots of reading and answering on it
yeah, mean does actually have its benefits if you have the right amount of it
if you have any more questions you can ask us or you can join former Seventh day Adventist’s-renewing our minds.
I think I will have to get back to you more on this when I have more time though...I prob won't be on any of the groups 4 a longish time sadly.. But I really enjoyed talking w/ you guys, its helped me, and hope it helped you! Thx!! Bye!!
So, "meat" also meant food, and not just the other meat, Lol!
I honestly think its healthier to eat meat. Its very good for bones, blood, muscles, sinew...etc. And you guys r visa versa. Lol!! We actually do eat a nice lot of veggie's. My sis and I love Salad. XD
Yes meat can contain parasites. But first of all they are usually not there. And secondly if you cook the meat properly if by any chance there is parasites they will almost always die. But its a slim percentage, at least in U.S.A. You have a Much higher risk of getting parasites by walking around bare foot outside, and being w/ animals then by eating meat.
I'm sorry!! I just posted those questions in diff ways a couple times b4. XD XD
we are commanded to not eat meat, or to not eat " unclean " meat, b/c of the verses stated down there.
Thanks for answering that BM!! Veggie's are good to keep ppl lean, and it is good for you. But no, meat is not necessarily bad. Like pig fat increases your chance of heart attack. And other stuff I think. But eaten in moderation is fine. So not morally wrong to eat meat. What I mean is I don't believe
1 meat can have worms and things in it which can grow in your body because it’s not like animals wash their hands, now I don’t mean earthworms and things but microscopic worms that sometimes survive being cooked 2when Noah was going into the ark 7 animals of each clean species came and 2 of each unclean species, and God to,d nosh that the ones in pairs of two were not to be eaten 1#i don’t really get, give us meat and say it is good for meat(why would god give us a bone and say it is good for a bone) 2#um... I do believe I should follow all the laws and I don’t know if I have gentile blood in me, but i think I have Jewish, don’t know why that is important
well I am not trying to avoid your questions
I’ll try to answer your other questions later.
the question down there of “ how do you know meat is physically bad for you?” I am going to answer. meat isn’t really bad for you. it won’t kill you. but there are other things that are BETTER for you. that’s why we are vegetarians.
2# If you believe that we must follow that law what about those other laws? Circumscision and the purifying laws. Aren't you yourselves Gentiles.? Do you have Jewish blood? See what I mean?
1# Why would God give us meat and tell us it is good for meat?
They did not understand the pictures. And neither really did the disciples till Christ told them.
Its not like: Oh, Jesus died for us!!! Now we can eat unclean meat!!! Now all could come to the Father through the Son. The Pharisees Jesus called " White washed tomb, which inside is filled w/ dead men's bones. " He explained that, they follow the outward things!!! But they do not see the spiritual things.
Jews were Gods chosen people. And some Gentiles did come to God. But they were all cut off. What I mean is, they did not have the privilege which came w/ Gods people.
And BM, I think your putting it in the wrong light.
Those pictures were to help us. The Gentiles like I said b4 were cut off. The Messiah came the one who would pay for our sins. God said that now all could come to him. Both Jews and Gentiles, see what I mean? The pictures were not needed anymore.
I agree w/ Skyler its your choice, except on what you said about unclean meat.
And down there are bible verses to prove what I wrote.
And I already said that unclean and clean meat and the other things were metaphors and helps.
2# Where in the bible did God command us not to eat meat b/c it is unhealthy for us? And he does so for our health reasons?
1# How do you know meat is physically bad for you?
No offense, but it seems like you keep avoiding the questions I've asked you several times BM.
I'm not judging you guys either. Look, there is nothing wrong w/ being a vegetarian!!! XD
here’s what I said before. unclean meat is PHYSICALLY bad for you. God didn’t make that law as a restriction, He made it to keep us healthy. Fo you really think that unclean meat is now good for you because Jesus died on the cross? and I already told you that because Loma linda has so many vegetarians it’s life expectancy is muck longer than other cities. so not having meat is a better lifestyle. it’s been proven!
so yeah I really don’t have a problem with mean unless it is unclean but I just would rather not eat it.
yes yes, I am not condemning poeple who eat meat, I mean Jesus himself was eating meat sometimes. but I would rather not eat meat because I don’t like the though of an animal being killed, especially because just lately my dog died and that made me really sad for animals that die
Its been nice to talk though! And when I come back, I will definitely want to continue this, if that fine with you guys! Thx, for making it BTW!
Btw...this is soo sad!!! XV I will be gone from Monday...4 A VERY longish time...I'll come back eventually though...but still. I will talk tomorrow. B/c I think its a good thing to talk about on Lords days. XD
Why? I mean the bible clearly has LOTS to say on this.
Meat is unhealthy. According to God it is unclean ( certain kinds at least ) I believe that's what u are saying?
why would God give us such unhealthy things? What glory does that bring him?!?! We are his chosen people...the apple of HIS eye?!
Why would God provide meat for us to eat, if it is so very unhealthy for us? God says: he that toucheth you, toucheth the apple of his eye. Zechariah 2:8
How is meat unhealthy for you? What is it in the meat that is unhealthy for you?
We are told to take care of our bodies, and that it is a sin to neglect it. So...if meat is very unhealthy for your body, but Jesus ate it...then, it doesn't make sense!+!
So, if he wanted to he could have most certainly.
He fed the five thousand, and then the two thousand!!! If he wanted to, he could have eaten vegetables, just like that. He made them and they are his.
He was God and man, in one person. He told Peter to catch a fish and open its mouth, and he would find money in it to pay the taxes.
And about Jesus probably eating meat if he could afford it...
He hath given meat unto them that fear him; he will ever be mindful of his covenant. Psalm 111:5
Btw, where are you getting your info on: " pig meat is very unhealthy "? If eating meat is so bad, then why does most of the world eat it? If it shortens your life? Threatens your health. Why don't they know? We humans have been around 4 about 6,000 years, and have created technologic marvels...so why would only some people know meat is so very unhealthy...?
There are so many other bible verses, but I don't have time r/n. Maybe I can type them out another time.
...what about all the purifying laws? If you even touched an "unclean " animal.
Holy and unholy. But Jesus has come. Those were pictures to help us. The Circumcision of the soul.
And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.
He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an EVERLASTING COVENANT.
And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
Look, if you believe that God still commands us to eat only " clean " meat but not " unclean " Then shouldn't you keep the other laws? Shouldn't baby boys be circumcised on the 8th day?! And ALL the other laws??
The meat is no longer unclean. God said: " What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common " God cleansed. It is a picture. A metaphor! Holy, unholy, but now there is no need of that. Christians. Both Jews and Gentiles, being able to come together, through Christ.
first of all. there’s nothing mentally wrong with eating unclean meat, but there is something physically wrong. eating pig is very unhealthy. and eating meat won’t kill you, it’s just a healthier lifestyle. the city of Loma Linda has a higher life expectancy because it has a lot of vegetarians. look it up! Jesus probably would have been a vegetarian except it would be very expensive then. fish were cheaper than grapes.
Oof...I sure wrote A LOT!!!! But I finally did it!!! Hope it's helpful!!!
Lol, no offense, but...an argument is not an argument, without evidence. I mean Idk where God commanded us to not eat meat, on account of it being unhealthy...no offense!!!
God would not have been God, if he had not risen again.
About the sabbath...God made us all, and rested the seventh day.
Jesus died for us all and rose up again, on the first day.
We a new creation.
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our PASSOVER is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
The sabbath day. God's day, another picture. He made us, a day to enjoy him and learn about him.
Let my prayer be set before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. Psalm 141:2 KJV
Sacrificing, the priest would sacrifice, symbolizing prayer, a prayer for God's mercy on their sins. A metaphor, a picture...
Like Circumcision. Another picture. Clean and Unclean. God's people, a sign.
But how if you are referring to the OT laws, I disagree. That were a metaphor of the things to come.
Skyler, if you are referring to the moral law ( the 10 commandments ) I believe that too.
If you are truly sanctified, Christ is in you, and you are not your own, you cannot do what u please.
But now, there is no, clean and unclean.
what the clean and unclean meat had been separated for.
It was a metaphor, not, I believe for health reasons but to show them, they were clean, but the other people unclean. etc...
Do u really think that God, who brought down the sheet, filled w/ the unclean animals and three times said: Rise Peter; kill and eat. Did not actually mean that? Yes, I believe that God was also showing that they were no longer separate from the Gentiles. ALL could be saved b/c of Jesus. This also was...
Why did the Israelites KILL animals, to sacrifice to God? Is God cruel, then b/c the animals can feel?
If it was unhealthy for us, why would God tell us, that EVERY moving thing and green herb was good for us to eat! Genesis 9:3?! Why would JESUS have fed the 5 thousand with meat ( fish ) and bread? That seems so cruel, right?
And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. Exodus 12:8
Eating meat is actually good for you, b/c it has lots of good protein and stuff Idk. But good for your muscles and strengthening.
Jesus fed the 5 thousand w/ fish and bread. If eating meat was something not to be done, don't u think that Jesus would have not done so? And why would God not address such a thing?! Think if the passover! They would kill the lamb, roast it with fire, eat w/ bitter herbs and unleavened bread. Exodus 12. And other places in the bible.
So...was the eating of meat banned? Clearly not, from all that the bible says.
The Israelites, were given no commands to refrain from eating meat.
Remember how Abraham set meat before his guests in Genesis 18:8? And the Israelites, complained that they had no meat, but wanted the leeks and onions of Egypt, God gave them meat, but punished them, by giving them to much quail, they were sick and tired of it. Exodus
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Daniel was committed to purity. He had purposed not to defile himself w/ the kings meat or wine. The kings meat had been sacrificed first to the kings god's. The overseers of a church not drinking wine, was a Nazarite vow. He was not to be given over to wine.
1. God did not restrict ALL animals for meat, only the "unclean" ones.
No, there is nothing " morally wrong " with eating meat.
I eat meat. But you guys don't, and I respect that, its your choice. But.. you are saying you don't eat meat, b/c the Bible says not too...
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Wednesday, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:54 PM
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I'm so sorry!! I just rlly didn't have time!!! Lol, just finished some essays. XD XD I'm so sorry, I couldn't talk!!! I will TRY 4 the end of this week...XP Oh my word...XD Anyway... Happy Thursday! * wink * And GN...or GM...whichever Lol!!! XD
that is now going to be the group symbol
I think I will have time to type everything out on Wednesday! ;P Looking forward to it!
Dang it! I don't think I can sadly...X(
Right! I'll try to right back TODAY. XD
I'll get back to you guys, but it took me an hour yesterday, to type all that. And I don't want to reiterate. XD
they ate meat because the Egyptians ate meat(our archaeologists found out that because of the diet of the Egyptians their usual life expectancy was about 30). and so God made a restriction of meat that they wouldn’t have diseases like the Egyptians. but you can see on the book of Daniel that pure vegetables are best for us. we were supposed to eat them.
and the Israelites.......
first of all it was a vision to represent that the word of God was not only for the Jews, but for all the people of the world. second, the law not to eat unclean animals wasn’t a law for restriction, it was meant that we would be healthier. do you Rally think that God just made all animals safe to eat?
about Peter’s vision.....
however things like dogs and cats don’t tend to die so much and so they probably have more feeling that God gave them I think
third I think God made microbes and things with no feeling and he gave animals feeling but some less and some more, for instance it would be mean for God to give full feeling to something like a grub that dies so often in cruel ways(ants, birds, insects, etc.)
first of all I do not believe we are free to do whatever we want because Jesus sanctified us. the law God made for us is not a bad thing but actually makes you live a more happy life and makes you more content, nothing to be released from. second I don’t want to kill animals just because I want to eat them. I would only kill a animal if it had to be killed. there is nothing really wrong with eating meat but I just wouldn’t want to. did you know that 150-200 plants and animals are going extinct every day? that is because of us for the most part and not eating animals helps with that I think
We are stewards of these animals, we are over them, they are under our dominion, but we are to be good stewards. And not be cruel. Maybe you guys should sit on this?
There are many verses about people eating meat. And killing animals.
Also down in Acts, the once unclean animals, were now clean.
They are not the same as us.
God gave the green herb for meat in Genesis 1:29 be4 the fall. But after the fall in lots of other verses and in Genesis 9:3 animals were also given for meat.
" Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. "
" And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat "
Animals were not only killed 4 sacrifices.
And the Israelites, killed and ate their animals.
" And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven. "
" And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But, Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. "
" And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth. Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowels of the air. "
" On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, "
But, it is not wrong to kill an animal and or not to eat it.
Yes! We were not created in the same way. We are made in God's image, and animals are not.
and about the lambs skin. they killed the lambs because it was needed. and God need to show how bad sin was.
no, because we are in Gods image.
IF we were the same as animals, and I was starving it would be fine to eat another human.
So, after Adam and Eve fell, animals were killed so that they could be clothed. And God, could have provided them with different clothes. But b/c of sin death came. Adam and Eve would have known where those skins came from, and knew that was b/c of their sin. God replaced the fig leaf aprons with skins, of some animal.
God made coats of skins for Adam and Eve. And those coats came from animals ( Skin )
Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. Genesis 3:21
All this BTW, is in Gen. 3.
And death, sickness, other troubles, and killing of animals were the cause of Adams sin.
Btw BM, Adam and Eve were perfect, they lived sinlessly, but they were capable of committing sin. But we, if we are saved, are capable of not committing sins. ( It isn't possible though, to completely stop sinning, b/c we are not perfect ) In the Garden all was perfect...
Bacteria are alive too. Lol! OFC animals and us etc...fit into the class of " living beings "
well, not in his image. but we are booth alive and have a beating heart. and also that in the guarded of Eden Adam and Eve didn’t eat animals.
yeah, I think it’s just mean cause god created animals just like he did us
You believe that it is morally wrong to kill an animal for your own pleasure? ( Please correct me if I'm wrong. XD ) How so.
I just want to understand full why you believe that, before I say why I believe what I believe. I'm just a little confused.
You guys are saying " This is what we believe " So, you got to that conclusion some how, you believe that, b/c of certain things. Is it " Morally " wrong, to shoot an animal for pleasure ( Lol, don't get me wrong! I couldn't do that. But others do, and I don't think that's wrong...
Could you explain how you got to that conclusion.
No, you guys said " It is wrong " To kill an animal to have it as a trophy?
anyways I am not saying it is wrong to kill but it is wrong to kill for fun and personally I would only kill in a life and death situation
what does BM mean, does it mean be more specific?
BM, could you give me the reasons why you believe it would be morally wrong to kill an animal. ( Other than, if your starving, or the animal is going to kill you or some other person )
Your saying that: " If you are starving, ( Ik that's drastic!!! XD ) and you had the choice to shoot a deer, you would? But, if you can avoid it ( Your own protection ) you wouldn't? "
So, is this ( BM. and a little bit of what Skyler said just what you guys believr, and not necessarily related to the Bible. Other than the animals going to heaven. )
well i believe it is wrong to shoot an animal for pleasure or for meat even though you have enough. but if you are in need af animals as food then it would be okay)even though I can’t stand the thought of killing an animal).
I think animals might now go to heaven if it will make nobody happier there but pets and things would make it happier for people in heaven. I’m not sure where it is, I just heard it. but also I think shooting an animal for fun is just unnecessary and mean but if it is necessary then shooting an animal wouldn’t be wrong I think. I personally think it is to hard for me to kill an animal because they seem so innocent even if I was in a life and death situation and I could kill a deer I don’t know if I would, I mean, I don’t even kill mosquitos
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Thursday, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:45 PM
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BTW, I'm pretty sure they don't do that in USA. ( The pig thing ) They usually put them out quickly and pretty painlessly. So, do you guys believe it would be wrong to shoot an animal? If so, could you please explain? Thx!
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Thursday, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:43 PM
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Yikes, and which country is that allowed?! That is kinda cruel. So, do you not eat meat, b/c animals will go to heaven, and it wouldn't be right?
did you know you can get arrested for making a video inside the animal factories just because they don’t want people to know how they treat animals. with pigs they actually leave a pig until it dies and then give the pig as food to the other pigs
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Wednesday, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:22 PM
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Oh, and the: Extremely bad treatment to the animals??
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Wednesday, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:21 PM
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And sorry I haven't responded! Real busy! XD
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Wednesday, Sep 18, 2019 at 9:20 PM
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Lol! Well, that's cool! And there is nothing wrong with being a vegetarian or a meat eater ( XP ) That's a matter of choice. ; D What I meant, was: Why you do, b/c of Leviticus ( I hope I'm right. XP Pweeze...XP ) something and thing. XP B/c it says too?
but is is a better lifestyle eating only vegetables.
I don’t eat any meat cause people who make meat give extremely bad treatment to the animals
no, the Bible says that we should eat only clean animals, and those are things like fish and stuff, you know Jesus ate fish
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Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:44 AM
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BTW, aren't all SDA vegetarians? ( Lol, idk, I guess so...had to ask. XP )
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Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:43 AM
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Lol, nothing wrong with that!!!! ( Being a vegetarian ) But, about doing it cause the Bible says to in the OT.
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Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:42 AM
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So, what about..uh, u guys r vegetarian b/c of what it says in the OT? Right?
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Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 10:41 AM
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Sure.
we need to debate now, that’s what this group is for
remember U wanna fight bro?!?!
oh wait you posted at PM not AM
I see your a early bird(I remember we’re on the same time zone from long before)
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Wednesday, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:32 PM
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Wait, mph! So, so, so, SAME!!! So, at r old house we had woods...and we explored so much by ourselves. We had this giant garden too. And lots of trees. And we tramped through these 6 to 8 ft tall blackberry bushes ( Neighbour ) and made a long path through it all!! Etc...XP OK, FR By!! XD XD XD
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Wednesday, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:29 PM
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And u guys, all the pics of ur dogs R SOOO CUTE!!! Lol, I wanna pet them ! XP Gtg! Byee!
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Wednesday, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:28 PM
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Oh my word BM!!!!! XD XD XD XD XD
the two l’s are his arms and the o is his head
I seeeeeee a person drowning.
wow. there’s nothing I like more den blublerry muffinds, unless id’s more blublerry muffids. how many do i get?
oh nothing, we were just wondering why you always boss us around that’s all
what are you guys whispering about?
well at least you could be more DIVERSE.......heads up biblememorizer and I will be gone for the weekend starting somewhere on Friday.......... heads up biblememorizer and I will be gone for the weekend starting somewhere on Friday............. heads up biblememorizer and I will be gone for the weekend starting somewhere on Friday.......... heads up biblememorizer and I will be gone for the weekend starting somewhere on Friday.......
I know, it would be dumb to do it on every group
heads up biblememorizer and I will be gone for the weekend starting sometime on Friday
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Wednesday, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:31 PM
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Wednesday, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:31 PM
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I’m a little competitive if you know what I mean
I did do a little pasting
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pony would of liked this group
you could also do neon Pegasus by perry grip but it’s really dumb
listen to spaghetti cat by perry grip, and turtle by perry grip
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ya YEET ya, totally understand. you can talk on it and debate with us
Btw Skyler, I didn't join the other group just b/c u said not to, or to be mean. Or learn exactly about SDA. I know about them a little, and I just wanted to see what Larissa thought. 😉
Uh, idk we already debated on everything. And I might not have time. (School)
what should we debate about(other then what to debate about)
I think we should get back to debating➡️.⬅️ you know make this group unique➡️.⬅️
And PUNCTUATE at the end.
And u both forgot to CAPIALIZE the beginning of ur sentence. 😎😁😁😁 Lolz, it was irresistible. 😂😂😂
He said it in his head. 😂😂😂
wait, I got no idea what happening
Let me...You forgot too...jk! I wont!
I will get back to u on that!!! You guys teasing back in forth is too funny! 😂😂😂😂
God with capitalized “G”’s
yep, but is it fair for god to pick some people to be better without doing anything wrong. is it fair god would say “your are god and you are not”
Sounds,like u had fun at the Oshkosh thing.😉
Or women ordination. The Levites, in the OT, not just anyone, and a male. ( Some women however, were prophetesses. ) And then in the NT, I will find verse, it tells us the requirements for someone to have a position in the church.
Uh, down there👇 What I ment, I have never seen verses for us having our own will, and being able to choose God to save us. The verses are telling us to seek God, because that is our duty, and if we ask sincerly ( yes, even on our death beds ) he will save us. But he tells us not to wait, to seek him in our youth, and to call upon him, while he is near.
what should we debate next
my dear is a a blob with a circle on top and four sticks
it is actually pretty good though
yep. I can tell you drew it🤣🤣🤣JK
what is it? no offense but it looks like a pirate deer with a scarf😁
oh gosh I love it I wish I could draw like that .
Yes, I do! Its cool!!!!! 😆 Do u draw from imagination? I draw to😉 Soo * high-five* 😂
like my new picture I drew it
Surest thing alive! I will later today, but I have a test r/n Please PRAY form me!!!!!😨😨😨😨Thx!
name one and I will tell you a verse
So, I dont know ( no offense ) if u are arguing for the sake of arguing 😂 Or curious about others views....but why do you believe what you believe, when many of your beliefs have no Bible verses?
So u have posted that on all the groups....😂😂😂😎😂jk!
biblememorizer, eaglets and me are going to be gone for about a week to Oshkosh, aka biggest SDA event of the year, we should be here until like 9:00 AM tomorrow, then we go
that once saved, always saved. is NOT true!
it says In James 2 that it takes faith AND works. even the Deamons believe-and tremble!-from James 2
yes if you are a bad person and on your death bed you confess and you mean it then yes I believe that you will potentially go to heaven but we don’t know when Jesus will come or even when we will die so definitely not a good plan even if we plan to do that to cheat the system you won’t truly confess but if you don’t know God truly and confess on are death beds we will go to heaven
what does it mean according to this conversation though?
and actually about the Antichrist, I don’t see why that means anything to this argument, but the Antichrist will deceive many people. I do not think the people in the other group are ready for him though
no, those people are not actually being SDA
actually SDA does go with the Bible, this is the exact point I am trying to make, if sodom and Gomorrah are representatives of what will happen in hell(which the Bible says that they are), and yet they did not burn forever, but they died, doesn’t it make sense that the people in hell will burn forever. I mean, it says they serve as an example of the people of hell, and they died. the people in hell must also die then
I checked out the group. Are there different SDA denominations?
U should read ALL of Matthew 24.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christ's, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Also the bible warns us....
Because Anathema Maranatha means: Cursed forever until the Lord comes ( Maranatha meaning awaiting God's divine judgment ) Sodom and Gomorrah was an example of how great the judgment will be, and they will burn Forever.
Sooo, the SDA beliefes deffinitly contradict the bible....
And he is just hoping that I will choose him.
Sooo, from what I gathered. I can live a sinful life, and on my death bed, I can "profess" love for Jesus, and still go to heaven? And it would all be fine. And I wont really have to worry all about this verse: If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema Maranatha. ( 1Cor. 16:22 ) Because God has absolutly no power to change my will, I can only accept him.
And is all this debating doing any good? Because honestly, ppl may say they follow the scripture alone, but they dont ( no offense )
I do, I just rlly cant do everything at the same time.
she is not coming back she posting on other groups but not this one I don’t think she wants to talk about that
Ariana if you go on that group then do not listen to it. they teach things that are not seventh day Adventist’s thoughts and beliefs
I am really disapproving of the group”former seventh day Adventist’s renewing our minds”
okay, tell us if you disagree
I will get back to u, gotta go now.
now to see if we have anyone to argue with
if he died on the cross for us he would not let us burn forever ♾ it’s just not the way he is
I believe that simply bc god is not that mean and would not do that to us
that is if you believe they will burn forever
that is basically saying the people of sodom and Gomorrah who died by fire and brimstone are a example of the people who will go to hell, but they still died. the Bible also never says that people will burn forever but it says that the fire is eternal, so it cannot be put out. that only means people will not survive no matter what they do because the fire cannot go out.
now it you think they will you probably want to argue with the verses that say there is eternal fire, but in Jude 1:7 it says “in a similar way sodom and gomorroah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immortality and perversion. they serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.”(new international version)
I know eaglets biblememorizer and me all are seventh day Adventist’s, so we believe people die in hell and do not burn forever
does anyone here think hell will be eternal, and that people will be there forever
well we need to debate again, what should it be about this time
I saw it instintly....it sticks out.🤷♀️😂😂😂
I got it in three seconds
find the four leaf clover
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my all time favorite emoji...
well I don’t use emojis that much🤨😁🤗🤠
OFC! Abbr. is my middle name.😋😂😂 Lolz! I love too.
you do a lot of emojis, ariana. and abbreviations.
I am up to day 17, but I have been on more it longer then you so yeah
You are not 😡Skyler! Jk! Whatev! 😂 B4n...
Btw, Skyler, i am 9 days into the emoji diary.😂
Uh...sure, I guess. Skyler, I will get back to this next week, r/n I am studying for a test, so I can comment now and then, but I cant really have a ' conversation ' ( When we are on at the same time ) Thx!
or we could debate on what to debate
we should move onto a subject with more meaning. like the sabbath, for instance.
well, actually. I don’t care. well won’t haft to know what will be there in heaven. so why bother.
just ask yourself a personal question, not quoting or anything just saying, won’t god do everything to make us happy in heaven, do you think he might hold something from us that would make us happier, I don’t know about you but I don’t think so and my dog that died, if it didn’t go to heaven then heaven couldn’t be complete to me, I would be so much happier with her there to play with me, but that is just what I think. I don’t think god would hold out something I loved that much from me
do we all believe Jesus was the messiah? do we all believe... well we covered this but about how animals might go to heaven
yeah, we each have good arguments, but for some reason we always think differently😂 what should we talk about next?
WHY YOU LITTLE, JUST BE QUITE!!!!!!!
I mean my arguments are ligit, because I have Bible verses to back me up. ( Not saying yours aren't necessarily, but I believe Sola Scriptora, so I need to have bible verses behind arguments )
Ok, ok.😥😂jk! U guys just didn't seem so keen. Maybe, because we already covered it?
uh, well this group was made for discussing our beliefs.
I mean the group description...
Are you guys just sick of my arguments, or dont care? ( No offense )
What day we are to worship God is very IMPORTANT, I tell u what, I cant really do this, this, week, but I WILL next!😉
and here we go about the sabbath.
Or Superbowl Sunday. ( I believe thats wrong )
(pathfinder bible experience)
we do something called pbe
K, Skyler, now that your back, I will try to post all those arguments, but I'm not sure I can, next week would be better, because I have a test this week.
I can’t wait for 2 years when I move to San Antonio temes
Cool, lolz, I red in a book once that, that used to be a WW2 POW camp.
I won’t be on for three days starting Saturday through Monday because I’m going to a Japanese summer camp in Aomori since I live in Japan;
for by grace you have Been saved through faith and this is not your doing it is the gift of God
I will be gone for about a week because I am going to Asi(an Adventist committee thing happening that is really fun)
why did you say Cheerio, Ariana. I like Cheerios. at least you could’ve said Cheerios, and not just one, little Cheerio.
btw slithering snake, love the name
I think that you go to heaven when you fully surrender to god and will trust him unto death, knowing he is the one who decides what is best, sin happens because the universe has to see what sin really is and how bad it is, so the universe is watching us
I had a super long post, but it crashed, so I'll re-type tomorrow. Same Snake! Faith in Jesus Christ! Our righteousness is as filthy rags. ( Isaiah 64:6 ) Lol, before I know it I'll be typing the whole thing out. Cheerio!
i believe you get to heaven by faith
“yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.” Galatians 2:16
we must work to go to heaven.
24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. 25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. 20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[e] and he was called God’s friend.
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.-james 2
ok, there are no verses about God saving you and you not believing in Him. you haft to ask God to save you and have faith in Him. also, James 2 is very specific about having faith and works to get onto the kingdom of heaven.
actually I don’t know what you are talking about with Jesus crew so I will leave it for now
Btw, u said that there are no verses, about God not being able to save you, unless you accept him, but if thats do, how do you know?
* Psalm 118:22: the stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. Eph. 2:20: and are built upon the foundations of the Apostles and Prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the Chief Cornerstone:
So, being able too ' choose ' God for yourself, would be a 'good work'but in the Bible it says that: Not of works, lest any man should boast. And that: Through Grace are ye saved, and that not of yorselves it is a gift of God. And Grace is an undeserved gift.
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the father. now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the Saints, and of the household of God; and are built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Jesus Christ himself being the Chief Cornerstone* in whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy Temple in the Lord. in whom ye also are build together for an habitation of God through the spirit...
That at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes we're far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of the commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man so making peace; and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:...
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace and his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. FOR BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED THROUGH FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD. not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. wherefore remember, that ye being in time past gentiles In the Flesh, who are called uncircumcision by that which is called the circumcision in the flesh made by hands;...
Ephesians 2: and you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past you worked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the fesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. but God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead in sins, has quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye saved;)...
Hello, are u still on? I found out that verse about God choosing u/saving u, not visa versa so, here ghoes, its looong!
but you know what. I think that it doesn’t matter what’s in heaven. we just know it’s bound our deams.
what about the wolf and the lamb.
I don’t think animals go to heaven but I think there’s heavenly creatures in heaven
Isaiah 65:17: for, behold, I create a new heavens and a new Earth and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
Sure, He could’ve made us love Him, but would that be real love. we would love Him because He said so. not for just Him.
Also about the pet thing, we all love animals I have cried buckets when they die, but they are creature comforts, just like a house anything, even ur own family, all that teaches u about God, and is intended to draw u closer to him. Many ppl will go too hell, and Matthew 10:31: fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. We are more important then animals, and it should sadden us more to not have them than our pets also...
there are no verses really about this because this is before genesis, before sin, even before Lucifer!
let’s put it this way. God could make us be brainwashed. make us bow. kill us. but he gave us a Will so that we don’t need to love Him it is our choice. if we did need to love Him it would be more like a robot loving Him. He wanted us to love Him just because of Him.
Like in the Bible it says that the potter can make one vessel unto honour and the other to dishonor, and what can the clay say? Can the thing formed, say to the thing that formed it, why have u made me so.
If u drew a picture of yourself, its yours, u can throw it away, give it away, anything. And the picture cant yell at you, u have no right to throw me away, you would laugh, becaused the picture has no power.
I'm really interested in what u believe, ( plz dont take this wrong ) But do u have Bible verses, and it isn't logical to say that he is all powerful, and he cant force ppl. Its like saying he cant sin, but ge can lie.
what does that have to do with will
Well, um...Romans 3:3-4: for what if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid: yea let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, that thou mightest be justified in in thy saying's, and mightest overcome when thou are judged.
ok. so God is all-powerful except that He cannot force will and He cannot sin.
in fact, the only way to get rid of sin was to bake Jesus a man and die to get rid of sin.
Wait, so u believe that YOU can can reject of accepgg the all powerful God at will?!
besides, the human was the one that brought sin into the world. not the animal.
Where are thr verses though?!
you can’t force people’s will. God can’t make people love Him. He can show His love toward them but it is their choice to love Him back. of course He can make us bow, but bowing and saying that He is lord is not loving Him. that like bowing to the president of the United stagers and saying that he is president. is that love? God wants us to be the happiest people in heaven. and even though He can’t change humans character, He can change an animal’s character.
if God could force people to love Him then the whole WORLD would love Him.
Am I boring u ppl out? Btw, Isaac are u SDA too? Ok, moving on too women ordination.
So...yes he can make us love him.
Phillipians 2:10-13: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things and Earth, and things under the Earth and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the father. Wherefore my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you, both to Will and to do of his good pleasure.
I think that ( no offense intended )ppl thinking that their animals are going to heaven is the same as someone thinking that their beloved plant is going to go to heaven. The bible doesn't say so in these words, but by theses verses, putting one and one together. Thats what I believe.
and God said, behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the Earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the Earth, where in there is life, I have given every green herb for meat and it was so. ( Genesis 1:25-30, I got mixed up not too 31 )
Genesis 1:25-31and God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and everything that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. and God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. so God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he HIM; male and female created he them. and God bless them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth...(not done)
Btw, he does have power to make you love him, u know that verse which says that a sparrow cannot fall unless God wills it, and that he feeds them, and he also knows even how many hairs u have on ur head.
I believe they dont go to heaven because...(long post incoming)
What do u mean he doesn't have power to make you love him, aka save you?
The verses in my other posts btw.😉
God doesn’t change our character because we have wills. that’s why He can’t force us to love Him. but animals do not have wills the the character switch will be easy.
But we dont know what is in heaven. I dont believe animals go to heaven because of these verses, because putting one and one together...But another thing: 1 Cointhians 2:9: but as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him.Psalm 84:11: for the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give Grace and Glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.
if animals will be in heaven then why not the animals that we had as pets?
We know that there will be animals in heaven though. Animals were part of Gods creation, before we all fell. Isaiah 65:25: the wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the Serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroyed in all my Holy Mountain, saith the Lord.
God does what will bring him the most glory, not the most happiness for us. Although if we are Christs, we are happy, because he is, and will, live forever with him. Rev. 4:11: Thou Art Worthy, oh Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
So, about the animal thing, they don't have souls, moral judgment, and are not made in God's image. God said in Matthew 1:21 and she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. And also John 3:16 for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. We and all the animals and irrational beings are made for God's glory, we exist for that purpose alone. our chief end is to bring glory to God and enjoy him forever 1Corinthians 10:31 whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever you do, do all to the glory of God. The animals can't be saved.( there is more )
It does have verses actually, I'll type them out later.
(this is my favorite group)
Btw, I cant talk r/n I'll be back in 30 minutes, I have to clean.
well the Bible doesn’t say much about women’s ordination, and for animals god says heaven will be happy beyond our wildest imagination, so no specific verse, just my opinion for animals
But where are the bible verses?
I think women should be ordained because god created everyone equal, he can do so much with twice the pastors and missionaries, god is also a fair god, I don’t see why women should be less important in gods work then men are, I think they are just as important for spreading the gospel and should be ordained
Long post incoming. Btw, do u have bible verses to back up, what u wrote?
god would do anything to make us happy in heaven, why would he do something in heaven that would make us less happy? and for me at least heaven could never be complete without my pet, so since god will make heaven as happy for us as possible, I think that my pet will have to be in heaven for heaven to be the happiest place ever, so yes, I think animals will be in heaven
Skyler and BM, could u tell me why u believe what u believe, and bible verses? I'm interested.
Ok, I'm so ready for this! I dont believe it, except the last 2 things, gotta go, but I'll be on later.
do you think you would see your pet in heaven? if you really love it then you will probably see it.
I believe all that but the animal part no one is really sure
I believe that women should be ordained, that when Jesus comes animals will go to heaven with us(dead or alive) and they will play with us in heaven, I believe the seventh day is the sabbath, that ged created men and women so not one or the other would be ruler over his wife/husband, and I believe that the Bible is the word of god and Jesus came to earth as the messiah
well a brief thing of what I believe
Lolz, Skyler, that looooong post of mine, I hope u got it, its really..um...I did it sooo badly! 😂😂
yo boi issac will not except to see this many posts when he comes
Wait, what, I'm confused.
but I can tomorrow, thanks for talking
little complicated verse, some things in the Bible mean different things though, such as the Ten Commandments say not to covet their neighbors wife, and that means women shouldn’t covet husbands either
And about those Sabbath verses, what they show.
In the OT, it had to be Levites, or God picking someone. And in the NT. So there were certain limits and laws, not just anyone could be. Could u tell me more of ur beliefs. Thx.
A woman cant be the husband of one wife. ( btw, there are other things, but I cant remember, I'll find the verse later )
thing is, back them almost nobody was ordained
I believe they shouldn't because, the bible never had ordained women. And ( I'll find the verse tomorrow, and tell u ) It says that they have to be the husband of one wife to be in that kind of position, and unless their Homesexuals ( but in Romans 1 it says that God has given those people over to their own reprobate minds, etc...( u know he is talking about them, because he says they left the natural use of the woman and burned in lust one toward another, men with men working that which is unseemly and even their woman etc...and nvm. U should read it..
unless... you are making a long post, or maybe you ran out of battery
Ok, so we believe in doing as the scripture does. U? Not to be offensive.
I believe they should be ordained
Sometime, when u can be on here long, I'll tell u. Ok, back to women ordination.
So, u know about the free church of Scotland continuing history?
little late here, I might have to go to bed sometime soon
about being familiar about something. Lolz, do u just want to quickly go over why you believe what u believe and I"ll do the same?
about women being ordained?
that is something I am ashamed of in the seventh day Adventist church, it’s conference says that they should not be ordained
Ok, I'll tell u about the verses.
I am pretty far I liar with them, not too familiar though, just wanted to be sure
btw, do you think women should be ordained, I do, if not we will get to that later
Yes, Free church of Scotland continuing. ( There is a difference between the other, would u like me to give u a quick over view? ) Presbyterian. ( close though )😉
what do the verses prove?
Rev: 1:10: I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day.
just a question, are you prespertarion(May have misspelled)? cause I think I might remember you saying that before
Acts 20:7 and upon the first day of the week when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them.
that was the perfect verse f r me
I get the first part but what bible verse do you have for the second part, whatever says that the sabbath switched
Gen. 2:3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Ok, now I'll give verses.
I think that, since god said “remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, six days you shall labor, but the seventh day is the sabbath of the lord your god. on it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant and maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.(exodus 20:8-10
Q. Which day of the seven hath God appointed to be the weekly sabbath? from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ, God appointed the seventh day of the week to be the weekly Sabbath; and the first day of the week ever since to continue to the end of the world which is the Christian Sabbath.
Btw, thanks for doing this with me, not many peeps will. Its fun!
Ok, I have a huge post incoming.
Wait, what! The first day of the week is Sunday...
I started talking on the sabbath because you talked about it in yo people of the lord
we could, except that I just posted a huge thing about the sabbath
I think the sabbath is Saturday because the Bible says “it was preparation day and the sabbath was about to begin”(Luke 23:54) “on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they has prepared and went to the tomb”(Luke 24:1) and we know that Jesus was crucified on Good Friday, and rose on Easter, which was Sunday, the priests also took down the body of Jesus in the middle of that period because it was the sabbath and they did not want to have a body there on the sabbath
Do u want to talk about the last one?
Wow! I'm like completely oppest of what u believe, except the last one, about half way.
since you talked about the sabbath in another group, we could talk about that
I think women should be ordained, the sabbath is Saturday, and the Bible should only be changed so it can be read more easily, but not change the actual idea
lol, yeah I remember negotiating, that, what topic should we start on, women’s ordination? the sabbath? whether the Bible should be changed?
btw, ur new dog is adorable. Once at my Uncles house in S.A. Me and my sis had 4 dogs on our bed!!!😂 One slept on my sisters 'head' (It would be more accurate to say pillow ) the other slept at her feet, and the puppy (african town dog ) slept leaning against my back. He fell off the bed sooo many times, and once my hand was dangling off the bed, and he puppy bit my finger, to pick him up again.😂 The 4th dog was s giant husky, but he was heavy and not aloud on the bed, but hd like to jump on it, and wake us up...😂
Skyler, do u remember that time when we talked about SDA ppl, and the worshiping on 7th instead of 1st? Wasn't that last year, or was it even looonger...
Btw, could I be an admin here too, so I can delete my own messages if wanted? 😂
well SOMEbody has better come or this group is history
by the way that’s the new dog in the group picture
hi well let’s get started with any people to join